If you are talking about the Clive Du Cross replica,


It was crashed at Keevil while on an air test, the remains eventualy went to the Ill fated Isle of Wight aircraft museum, from there I don’t know where it went! I was asked at one point to look at it as regards to rebuild to flying condition, I declined! It was originally well made, worked & was flown but the damage it had sustained really looked like you would have to start from scratch & real there was no mileage in that, Clive & his team did a fantastic job with the aircraft but my feelings were it was time to leave it as a static before it was damaged beyond recognition.
So, which way up is the Hispano engine? are the exhausts high as the Merlin engine or low as the German one? ( I’ve had no dealing with the 109)
In short the only thing he would have known Is when the aircraft nosed over to far, I jacked the aeroplane in the hangar to see what angle you had to get to before the prop would make contact with the runway, the tail comes up an awfull long way & I cannot believe the pilot did not see it, he must have known about it. The prop would have been turning at somewhere around 652RPM at an engine speed of 3000RPM (I seem to remember the reduction gear is around 1to4.6 or something close) so the blades were very well ground off & aparently it had no vibration!

So, end result, a set of scrap blades! Good Game!
Nice to hear someone’s smelt the coffee at last!;)
Graeme C, Nice idea but the logistics would be prohibitive, Main thing between the Buchon & the Me 109 the engine is the wrong way up! this would take all sorts of modification, engine frame, cowlings, plumbing etc, I’m not saying it can’t be done, anything is possible if you throw enough money at something but the ground handling is also crap due to the U/C on the aircraft almost being an after thought. So good on the guys with this static example, at least people can see one close up in the static park. We must all remember that at an Airshow maybe 80% of the visitors will know next to nothing about old aeroplanes so they probably wouldn’t know the difference between the two anyway, & they are the folks who keep Airshows alive! With the greatest of respect, most aircraft enthusiasts want the most for the least, so I don’t think Airshows would last long If the show relied on just enthusiasts who attended for their revenue.
Pretty broad statement that Alexis, How can you ‘Hate Spitfires’ when three items ago you posted..
I only said add the wingtips because of the photo. Personally the only Spitfires i like are clipped winged griffon engined ones .
Sounds a bit like what comes from under a Mustangs tail! 😉 & I ain’t talking aircraft! 😀 😀 😀
Originally posted by AlexisLambert
I only said add the wingtips because of the photo. Personally the only Spitfires i like are clipped winged griffon engined ones.
So you don’t like REAL Spitfires then Alexis!
(WarbirdUK runs, ducking for cover!)
Originally posted by SteveYoung
Just out of interest, what’s the preferred way of stopping the tips from digging in during power checks on one of these?
Would be intrigued to know what the answer is.
Steve, On our Spitifire Mk9 it went something like this….
Pre oil, Start up, stick ALWAYS held right back, warm up @ 850rpm, Mag check at around 1200rpm anything over that drape two bodies over the tail! Prop check at 1800rpm, don’t go over 1800rpm without the tail tied down & chocks tied into the tail strap, this is for an engineer ground running. A pilot will do his power checks as he sees fit. I have done one engine run up to 2400rpm with it all tied down & it has to be one of the most scary thing I have ever done, all though I would not have missed it for the world.
We did have a pilot who on the take off roll removed most of the yellow paint from the prop tips unfortunatly the wood from the blade went with it! & flew back to base 170 miles away without knowing! (he did not fly it again)
I have to say that ground running a Mk9 Spitfire on Biggin Hill Airfield has to be the highlight of my aviation career (so far)
Thought you may like to see this picture! It happened on the 19th May 1996
When the gears not locked it walks back up into the wing from whence it came!
This picture has never been published before! It certainly gave me some more work!
U/C doors, Prop Blades, Rad fairing, Air intake, I had it flying within 5 weeks of the accident.
Having brain fade at the moment but was zinc chromate used in those days? I’m sure some of you will know!
I would have thought it would have been silver!
Just a quickie,
Looks more like some sort of a coolant leak to me Damien. I think that port behind the exhaust is where the glycol header tank vents
This is probably caused by an overfill of the cooling system & not having enough expansion space for the coolant once it gets hot so the pressure relief valve (a bit like you car radiator cap) will allow some liquid to escape until there is a large enough air space.
Again about the Hurricane, I would also like to add that If you are not getting green lights showing on the panel the last thing you want to do is move the aeroplane around on the ground, You jack it up off the wheels to give it some stability & find the problem, even pushing the aircraft with a possible U/C lock problem can have horrific results if a leg starts to fold, do you really want people to take that risk just so you can get some pictures of it outside? having had a Spitfire land & the wheels walk very slowly back up into the wheel wells during the roll out causing thousands of pounds worth of damage, trust me, you take no chances! But, I see all was not lost as where else could you have got the great pictures that I have seen posted here of a Hurricane being worked on? Remember, for every negative there is a positive, you just have to find it!
Iwould just ask that the folks out there who get worked up when they can’t see the aircraft that they want to see flying spare a thought to the ground crews that most of the time are there looking after these aircraft for NO wages & sometimes even having to pay their own expenses to get there to do it, mostly the only thing they get from an Airshow is the satisfaction that they got ‘their’ aircraft to the field so people could see it. I have been one of the lucky ones who have been paid to be there in the past but I take my hat off to the volunteers who work to give YOU the show so that some of you complain about, without them, most of the time there would be no show!
(Right, I’m off me soap box!)
Cheers for now
Locking pins?? this is a WW2 aircraft not an F16!
Originally posted by YakRider
Whoops – finger trouble again!Here’s a pic of a real Mark IX this time (not from Sunday though).
YR
Come on Guys, a real MK9?? A real MK9 would have to be a single seater surely? Mind you, at least this one has D Day history!