Originally posted by eddywinch82
Cheers Black Knight,

Is there anywhere on the net where the report is shown in full ?

Eddie Winch

Quite honestly after all this time (12years) it has no value, lessons were learned.
Cheers………………

I remember attending on that had the engine stop on takeoff at Wroughton around 1990, It could have been at the PFA Rally of that year, thankfully the pilot was OK but the airframe looked the worse for wear! seemed a nice little aeroplane.
Cheers…………..

So what happened? are we not big boys here? Ah well, back to the asylum! :confused:

Put me down for a copy please! Sounds like good work.
Cheers………….

Originally posted by SteveYoung
Hmm. Bearing in mind a couple of days ago I posted a link to a discussion which concerned a Ju87 being registered G-STUK, and therefore potentially a very rare candidate to fly, I’m quite surprised that no-one else has mentioned it.

What’s the gen out there? Is this a genuine and feasible project?

Hi Steve,
Built 1941 JUNKERS JU87/R4 S/N 6234
It was registered 19/12/03
to Glen Lacey
Epsom

(via G-INFO UK)

(edit:- but you knew that, had I looked at the shortcut! Dhu!)

Don’t hold your breath for this one, I doubt its up to much!
Cheers………………

Generaly most recent incidents have been at public shows where there is a glut of video, people who saw it, expert witnesses etc, when you see film of the departure you can generally tell if something fell off or broke mechanically prior to the crash, If you see a manoeuvre that is obviously not safe or right then really the official report is only going to confirm what you saw & knew.
The Chinook crash was nothing like an airshow crash, The ministry operate to much different procedures from civilians, as far as I know there were no eye witnesses or video etc & it was a ministry investigation held behind closed doors until the result was decided.
Please don’t think I am looking to blame every crash on the pilots, I’m not but there has to be a responsibility for what happens, after all if it is known to be a mechanical failure should we not look to checking others of the same type for the same defect? So why should we not want to help other pilots not to do what others have done? I have lost several very close friends in very well known crashes, but, had they walked away from the crash, or had they watched someone else have the same crash they would have been the first to admit they screwed up & would have learnt from it, they were that kind of people, human!
Cheers…………………..

David,
I think there is a slight over reaction to my post, of course I’m not suggesting that we should go round to someone’s widow and tell her that we are disgusted her husband crashed it? all I am saying is that when a pilot takes unnecessary risks there are more people involved than just himself, After all who is the crash down to If there is nothing mechanical found wrong with the aircraft? or do we put it down to medical problems?
If someone drives his car into yours on the motorway without looking is that OK in your book? I doubt it Or, If your son drove off the road at night in your car & there was nothing found wrong with the car after an investigation would you be fine with that? Any normal folks would be angry at either of those scenarios, so why the ‘don’t blame the pilot’ If nothing was found wrong with the aeroplane? I just don’t see it!