Re: Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by glitter
and you really believe that it’s the same production line who built 10 rafales over 5 years who would be used for the 28 following rafale from 2004 to 2006 ?

Steve is right, the production line has been shutdown to upgrade that line.
Could you remind me how many rafales have been built in 2003 ?
The last rafale is the C101.
What can you find in the FAQ of fr.rec.aviation ?
http://faq.bigip.mine.nu:8008/guide/rafale.php

Février 2002 : début d’assemblage final du C101, premier monoplace de série pour l’Armée de l’Air.

And here
http://www.isoshop.com/dae/dae/gauche/sponsors/sponsor_rafale/img/fox3_5.pdf
received by the AdA the 16th April 2003.
Thanks god, that wasn’t 2 weeks earlier.

So, it seems that , if less than 3 months of tests are need, you can easily said that Dassault, trough pure willpower and skilled manpower, manage to built … one rafale.

t’as piper un platane toi? ou quoi?

un general de l’armée de l’air a dis dans une interview a la commission de senat qu’ils avaient reçu 5 rafales F2 au CEAM le moi dernier! alors ils viennent d’ou, de mars? ils commence le F2 en test avec 2 mois d’avance!
saint dizier en aura 10 en 2005 et un squadron operationel decembre 2005!
http://www.senat.fr/rap/a03-076-7/a03-076-76.html

il y a 2 lignes de production chez dassa&ult qui construise les 5 pour le CEAM l’année prochaine!

Puis mon cousin bosse a Bordeaux pour une fillliale de dassault et crois moi, la production n’est pas terminée!
neanmoin, le Rafale n’a pas de ligne de production a Merignac, puisque Merignac fait les derniers tests!
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/air/avion/projets/raf/couts.html

et ton Stevetw@t, il n’a jamais mis un pied dans une Base Française!
Plus il est le seul a croire que les lignes de productions de dassault à Argenteuil se trouvent à Merignac!

Dassault fait des Falcon à Merignac! hey hey

http://www.ensta.fr/~tapage/re/visites/dassault.html

Stevetw@t un vrais Mythomane!

Oh my God!

lol

I can! French attitude, enough said

yes enought said! hey hey!

yaaaaa

want guy get datas from the francophobian site Wall street stuff, the sun the neo cons dayly rising etc…
it’s alway laughable!

“December 4, 2003: France is considering quietly retiring their new nuclear powered aircraft carrier and joining with Britain to buy a new carrier of British design. Actually, the French had planned to built a second nuclear powered carrier, but they are having so many problems with the first one that they are quite reluctant about building another one.”

ya, great! French have so many problems and ares so sad, that they can’t smile and breath louder happyness when they ares operating on the CdG, anyway, today british CVF will have a strong french accent and design! they not builder over 20000t navy ships for 60 years, the brits will be happy with any french design!

“Britain is building two 50,000 ton conventionally powered carriers, at a cost of $2.5 billion each. France would order a third of this class, and bring down the cost of all three a bit. The new French nuclear carrier “Charles de Gaulle” has suffered from a seemingly endless string of problems. The 40,000 ton ship has cost over four billion dollars so far and is slower than the diesel powered carrier it replaced.”

18 billions FF, 3 billion dollars! uh smelly racist alway grow the lies! it was 18 billions from a budget of 34 billions for 2 carriers, R&D make the first one dearer, and it was 16 billions if they launched the second!

low powered diesel, lol CVF max speed will be 25 knots, and the CdG lost 5 knots due to new european rules about nuke radiation protection, getting it 4.500 tons! USN ares more free about this “protection”!

” Flaws in the “de Gaulle” have led it to using the propellers from it predecessor, the “Foch,” because the ones built for “de Gaulle” never worked right. Worse, the nuclear reactor installation was done poorly, exposing the engine crew to five times the allowable annual dose of radiation. “

hey hey, lol! engenneers designed new propellers, very complex to build, and the news ones from RR was so badly build that they was refused! of course five time radiation!! lol ha ha ha, all french subs ares nukes ones, and all crews ares dead today !lol
don’t be wonder when guys like that claim Saddam is ready to nuke washington in less 45mns!

“There were also problems with the design of the deck, making it impossible to operate the E-2 radar aircraft that are essential to defending the ship and controlling offensive operations. Many other key components of the ship did not work correctly, and the carrier has been under constant repair and modification. The “de Gaulle” took eleven years to build (1988-99) and was not ready for service until late 2000. It’s been downhill ever since. So the plan is to buy into the new British carrier building program and keep the “de Gaulle” in port and out of trouble as much as possible.”

CdG wasn’t designed for the E2C, so E2C is a big plane, and they needed to use the truck to remove it from the track, now with
a bit longer track E2C can pack by himself! so nothing was repaired or modifieted more, it’s quite stunning! lol

France buying the british program? lol
the brits haven’t program, thier carrier is changing form each year, to finally buy a french design! as about services, CdG spent 8 mounth in afghanistan, without major repairs or modifications, lol! more France was the second navy nation to strikes there! as they did in Kosovo!

” The British have a lot more experience building carriers, and if there are any problems with the British designed ship, one can blame the British. “

so much experience that they aren’t able to stop a decision for 5 years, and getting a propet uk builder, that they buy a french design, that show all their trust in “british” building experience!

and Hawks, france is already a bigger powerfull military than UK!
in all, air forces, ground forces, Navy projection, deterence, renseignement, ELint Sigint, Space etc…

and more French ares independent!

Now the defence commission about second french carrier stated that a nuke sister ship a bit modifieted would be the best and cheaper choice!

a cooperation with rosbifs will cost more to france, and if rumours ares trues, France will do it for political reasons and to integrate europe in it!

because france will lose the Nuke propultion edge,autonomy, Satrap, etc.. will pay more to operate 2 diferents carriers etc..

as about britons using Rafale, don’t dream, they ares so proud of their next bugy bugy F35B, so don’t dream!

the brits ares in the cr@p, not the french!

lol

“But it is laughable compared to a Nimitz.”

the goal of aircraft carrier isn’t to be the bigest to satisfy the english mind set “to show the flag and to have the bigest ****”!

the goal of the CdG is to be more eficient than half airframe of a US carrier! and all that with a Wasp class tonnage at low costs!

so, the USA can spend 400 billions by years to build big aircrafts carriers, that will never stop efficiently any terrorist attacks, 9/11 is the prof of that!

and CdG is the only one to be fully integrated CTOL to the largest airframe on the sea, i mean USN!

that let’s me thinking that the british “aircrafts carriers” as they talk about, aren’t more efficient than a WASP class, a Wasp class can get bigger harriers airframe than 2 invincible class!

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/wasp/

so , CdG with 36 rafales isn’t as laughable as that!

lol

“Contrary to Paul Starobin’s admitedly excellent article (“the French were right”), Pilotght’s posting and yours don’t really contribute to any re-thinking and reconciliation.”

Maybe you claim that France should excuses for the iraq mess!

French did nothing more than advices!

the irrational and childish was from the “shock and awe”!

the blair Bush iraq nightmare isn’t that of the french, it never was!

French never bashed them, they even never needed to do it!

the reality is that coalitions countries will paye for that, politicly and financially!

lol

the shame is perceptible even in UK!

so i’m the only one to call british Lackeys, or Suck@rs,

ho ho ho!

lol

“Being seen as a lackey wouldnt be nice if we were that, but, I can imagine that being seen as a tedious international irrelevance might be worse! “

so get a look to international open press, even the british press call his own peoples as Lackeys!

and UK isn’t a dictature, the peoples voted for Blair! and seeing poll that 70% of them was like lames, beleiving that Saddam was able to strike their country in 45 mns! lol

even my little son who is 7 years old know that irak haven’t and never had ability to hit europe with WMD!

so where is the british pride? when deterrence and renseignements ares all provided by pentagon!

British army can’t operate today Missions without the Americans, and here when i hear you, not only arguments is childish pointing the past glory!
or insulting! but you just claim you ares important on any cases, lol!

UK power is irrelevant and too dependent at Military and policy stage! but more economicly too! and worst culturalycly too!

You ares in the Hawks boat for the better and the worst!

the fact that your island saved yours @ss from continentals wars will not protect you from hawcks extremist at pentagon!

lol

Phil Foster, you are a nice chap, but you just reply as typycly english morrons narrow minded!

I just provide sources and datas about you Lackeys statue in the world!

You are claiming each day that brit count for something and have influences, lol!

the proofs show all yours illusions!

you prise typhoon as if it was a great english product, that he isn’t.

i mean ” great and british!”

you claim to be strong and trusted, lol, but you aren’t, India, Greece China ares more able to operation missions by thier own and to be trustable than you, Lackeys!

More, to hide you the terrific reality, you ares claiming and arging from the past old revisioned militaries glories “for a english” lol!

not only the fact that you lost what you called “empire”, that any others call colonies, but more you lost national independence, military industries power, policy power and influences through the world!

british ares hated through europeans peoples, viewed as weak Lackeys! and lapdogs liars!

More, not only you lost at yorktown, but now the convicts and yankee dulls rules your lifes and use you as cheap gun’s flesh troops!

hey hey!

sad realities, and real facts!