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  • in reply to: The ones that never made it #2687884
    m.ileduets
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    This one should have been selected and produced. Given the popularity of F-5 upgrades, it could have been a big success. http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=8323&stc=1

    in reply to: Pilatus introduces its last-born child, the PC-21 #2687916
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    Silver grey makes it look retro style, like the old PC-3 in blank aluminium. Nowadays they have to paint them to create that look.

    http://www.paulnann.com/images/pn_w1754.jpg

    Image by paulnann.com

    in reply to: Gripen to Pakistan? #2688181
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    You can download it at a better quality here by the way.

    Here’s another nice one:
    http://imagebase.saab.se/ibsaab/file/saab/39_1/39_101_00384/low/39_101_00384.jpg
    Gripen gone “artsy”:
    http://imagebase.saab.se/ibsaab/file/saab/3279/3279-11_GI2/low/3279-11_GI2.jpg Pics by saab.se

    in reply to: Gripen to Pakistan? #2688189
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    Guys dont go off-topic.

    Second that! What this thread needs are a couple of pics in adition. Here’s one to start with:

    http://imagebase.saab.se/ibsaab/file/saab/DK03/DK031995GI/low/DK031995GI.jpg Pic by saab.se

    in reply to: Gripen to Pakistan? #2688326
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    Good point, you may have to look at Swedish news sources…..

    I’m sure Saab has every interest to publish anything concerning sales as soon as there’s something substantial. They published all their offers (to Poland, Brazil, Czech Republic….) way before anything was finalized. There’s nothing on Pakistan out yet link

    in reply to: Gripen to Pakistan? #2688359
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    OK,
    Time to get this thread back on track, enough of the Pakistani bashing, can you guys go to another forum forn that.

    Looks like PAF is making a play for the Gripen

    Pakistan eyes Swedish Gripen fighter-bomber
    Indo-Asian News Service
    Islamabad, June 16

    Pakistan hopes to acquire the Swedish JAS39 Gripen fighter-bomber to enable the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) maintain parity with its Indian counterpart, a private TV channel reported on Wednesday.

    It said President Pervez Musharraf is visiting Sweden during his three-nation Scandinavian tour next month when the Gripen deal is likely to be discussed. Musharraf will also visit Denmark and Norway.

    The Geo TV report said that Sweden, during foreign secretary Riaz Khokhar’s visit last month, had agreed to sell the aircraft to Pakistan.

    It contended that the Gripen was superior to the PAF’s F-16 frontline combat jets. Pakistan had zeroed in on the Gripen after examining the French Rafael jet and the Euro fighter. This was after the US refused to sell additional F-16s to Pakistan, the report, quoting unnamed defence officials, said.

    The Gripen would also help the PAF counter the MiG-27, MiG-29 and Mirage 2000 jets of the Indian Air Force (IAF), it added.

    Sweden would also transfer the technology for overhauling and maintaining the aircraft, the report said, quoting unnamed defence officials.

    Pakistan has planned to buy 40 Gripens with midair refuelling capability that would give them a 3,000 km range and enable them strike deep into enemy territory, the report said.

    They will be equipped with jamming transmitters and a variety of armament.

    The PAF will be inducting the JF-17 Thunder that is being developed with Chinese help but this would not happen before 2007, while the Gripen would be available much before that, the report said.

    Pakistan says the JF-17 matches the F-16.

    The Gripen, which first flew in 1988, is deployed by the air forces of Sweden, South Africa, Hungary and the Czech Republic

    OK, it seems that the rumours are intensifying. But let’s remain cautious. Up to now the impression prevailed that Sweden would never export the Gripen to Pakistan. (See “Castor” input above).

    Can anyone support the claim that the Pakistan foreign secretary got an OK from Sweden on his last visit?
    There seems to be absolutely no confirmation from the Swedish side. As long as this comes from Pakistan sources only, I ‘m more inclined to rate it as a bargaing trick using desinformation strategies.

    in reply to: Pilatus introduces its last-born child, the PC-21 #2688382
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    Picture of second prototype

    Here’s a nice pic of the second prototype with the new silver grey paint scheme:

    **IMAGE REMOVED BY WEBMASTER**

    Pic by Christoph Kugler

    in reply to: The Greeks need new Trainers.. #2688430
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    Let me explain why I think that current turboprop trainers are unfit for jet training. People think the PC-9 or Tucano look like a WW2 fighter, are powered like a WW2 fighter, so performancewise they must be equal to WW2 fighters. But what has to be understood is that all WW2 fighers are not equal, you have early generation WW2 fighers and late generation fighers. The Me-109 started out at 3000 lbs and ended up at the end of the war double that weight at 6000 lbs, and its speed increased from 350 mph to 450 mph. Although increased engine power acounts for some of that, really its the doubling of the wing loading that transformed this fighter into something entirely different than what it was. Structurally the airframe could hardly handle this weight increase and it became dangerous to pull the Me-109 out of a dive. Then you have other heavyweights like the Mustang and Fw-190, these planes were built to handle the weight and performancewise, they could fly at the limits where only the sound barrier held them back. The PC-9 and Tucano are not equal at all to planes like the Mustang and Fw-190, they are more in the class of early Me-109s, Spitfires and P-40s. This is why they have low top speed of 350 mph and a redline of 400 mph. They are not designed hot aerodynamically nor is their structure strong enough to handle hot performance. It is possible to give a prop aircraft a very high wing loading like the Heinkel He-100, but then your on the bleeding edge of prop performance, so it just makes sense to go up to a jet.

    You might be right with the PC-9 and the Tucano. however, with the arrival of the PC-21 the performance of the P-40 and Fw-190 will be at least matched:
    Data according to aeroflight.co.uk: Maximum operating Speed (VMO) 370 kts (685 kph); Maximum operating Mach number 0.72 M; Design dive speed 420 kts/0.8 M; Maximum level speed 340 kts at 10,000 ft (3,048 m); Speed at sea level in cruise power 300 kts.
    This in conjunction with a modern fighter jet- like glass cockpit and integration of “flying simulator” software should make training quite effective at a much lower price than with a jet trainer. I assume there will be quite a few countries reconsidering their training procedures.
    The future will tell, I guess… Link
    Unfortunately it comes out a little too late for Greece

    in reply to: Gripen to Pakistan? #2689351
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    Right. Rafale is very unlikely, even though on the article above there’s a hint that they were looking at EF and Rafale, but chose Gripen instead…. Rafale and EF are way too expensive for Pakistan.

    in reply to: Gripen to Pakistan? #2689373
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    I agree that most of this is very likely to be BS. However: to spread rumours like that could just be part of a bargaining strategy with another supplier country. France?

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    There’s not much they can do against the use of their howitzers. With planes, it’s a little different since they require a lot more spares and maintenance. This chain can be interrupted unless the receiver also gets tech transfer together with the planes. No wonder Brazil is insisting on that.

    in reply to: Pilatus introduces its last-born child, the PC-21 #2693193
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    Maiden Flight of second prototype

    On June 7 the second PC-21 prototype made its maiden flight in Stans. Its color scheme in silver gray is quite different from the first. There are two pictures here for members. There will certainly be more pics turning up soon…

    in reply to: MiG-29SMTs and Ka-52s for Yemen #2643862
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    Now how can you justify the acquisition of costly and most likely unnecessary military hardware over much needed economic and social programs?

    Perhaps they got a clue about how unstable their big neighbour to the north actually is. The planes might actually come too late.

    in reply to: Chinese aircraft for Mexico, is it possible? #2670366
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    Well afaik they were considering a very small numer of airframes as attrition replacements. (less then 6)

    In that case, it might actually work out. There are about four to five left, afaik.

    in reply to: Chinese aircraft for Mexico, is it possible? #2670401
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    Fighter wise they might try to buy some well maintained F-5s in the near future (swiis examples).

    After the deals with the US-Navy and Austria there isn’t much available until at least 2010. At that point Mexico would probably get them for a scrap metal price, if they were still interested…

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