Keep up the good work madrat …. the criticism was meant constructively 🙂

Where’s the Buccaneer?

Hey Panther, where about in Ireland are you? Is that your “patch” those Pilatus are flying over?

South Africa has a full international standard civil radar network. The South Africans also manufacture their own radar systems. Go to http://www.rrs.co.za for more info. I think that there is another radar manufacturer but their name eludes me at present. It seems they manufacture a Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) radar as well! Info and force compositions on Airforce and Army radar systems are scarce for the obvious reason of national security.

The SAAF also flies Boeing 707 which has a partial Phalcon AEW as far as I know.

As for the rest of Africa…I’m not sure, but it was not known as the Dark Continent for nothing!! :diablo:

The Al41 is a fascinating subject. It is clearly being positioned as the main fighter/strike engine for the future Russian Airforce.

Please allow me to ask a few questions.

The original engine as envisaged for the 1.44 was designed to be in the size range of the Al-31, indeed as a replacement for that engine. So why make it smaller?

I have seen various weights from between 1500kg to 1800kg and assume this to be the difference between dry and wet weights. The rough sizes I see are comparable to the Al-31.

The PAKFA is likely to be a large aircraft, and going with current trends for very high installed thrust to weight ratios, why then reduce the size or thrust? Or is it a case of perhaps ramping up the power output at a later stage?

Are there any single engine applications envisaged?

Yeah…..Hang on a minute!! There were people claiming on this site that the Cheetah C was re-engined with Atar 9K50’s from the Mirage F-1 fleet. Now, there were 38 Cheetah C’s and 14 or 16 2 seater Cheetah D’s. Together they would have accounted for the entire F-1 fleets engines. What engines are going with the F-1’s to Gabon? Or are the Chhetahs not using the F-1 fleets engines? (and engine spares, of course!)

Originally Posted by GarryB
Only 117 posts and you post this… will print it out and put it on my monitor… good advice… when talking to idiots sometimes I forget…

Originally Posted by sferrin
Make sure you post it next to the mirror too so you’ll see one of the primary offenders.

I may have 117 posts under this name which replaced my two previous names over the years as I’ve moved here and there. 😎

It was merely a request that people stay true to the topic of the thread to degenerate into an “American is better than Russian so there!” type downward spiral. I think this is a reasonable request. :confused:

Slightly obliquely, which engines powered the 1.44? I think it was the AL-31 and not the AL-41? If so, the exhaust nozzles were different and appeared to have ceramic(?) internal petals. Can anyone confirm this?

Don’t feed the Trolls. This is a discussion about the Russian Airforce. Please do not make it into a pi**ing contest, or ‘my ones bigger than yours’. You know who you are. Please create a seperate thread if you feel the need to compare.