I really hope it is the Rooivalk. it is a big, really tough beast that the South African Airforce are really happy with. It was really popular in the British competition but could not compete with the American political muscle behind the Apache. The US refused to allow Hellfire to be integrated with the Rooivalk thus stalling it’s chances. It had more compatability with the UK helo fleet than the others.
That said, I hope the Rooivalk does it as it is too good to just languish. If a large Turkish order is made, there will probably be more orders for the South African Airforce as has been previously hinted at..
The F1AZ has an extremely neat retractable refueling probe..circa 1973 already..
Can someone provide any details on that South African MAWS fitted on the Sukhoi?
The blackbird is the fastest manned air-breathing plane. The Mig-25 is the fastest currently serving with an airforce today. :diablo:
I thought you lived in a trailer park, not a dumpster, Gudehus. :rolleyes:
I see Gudehus is once more lowering the intellectual level with his drivel…
Oh, and that is a lovely sunset you have in your avatar…oops wife here..it’s been special.
SOC, is it my imagination or are you a wee bit tetchy today? 😀
“intefering or not intefering”
Creepers!! My spelling is as bad as that idiot who started this thread!! 😮
Apologies 😮
Would you say there is a difference between genuine insurgents/resistance and terrorism? Not all bombers in Iraq are foreign.
I know that the sick terrorists kidnap and behead, but what about IED’s. That to my mind is an act of resistance, much as I would expect a kid from Iowa to resist if USA was invaded. I mention this because you make it seem that the rest of the world wants America intefering or not intefering, which doesn’t make sense to you. I hazard that the rest of the globe does not want Uncle Sam invading…I cannot seem to recall a country being better off after uncle sam’s come and gone. I remember my wife asking why every few years America bombs/invades someone(bless her cotton-socked innocence 🙂 ) Well, my opinion is that it is about American interests, never the other party. Plus it makes for good prime time TV. :diablo: Clinton diverting attention away from that dress by bombing an aspirin factory 😀
Anyway , to answer the original question, if you have nukes, an un-named airforce won’t come to bomb your family and your country. :dev2:
SOC..c’mon man.You know full well that although an allround nasty guy, Saddam was hated by Islamic fundamentalists. Hell , there were liquor stores in Baghdad during his tenure as well as a SYNAGOGUE and small Jewish community of all things…do some Googling. The point is, Saddam was a SECULAR dictator and regarded fundamentalism as a threat. Sure, he would use them when convenient, but sheeesh!! All I know is that it was originally about WMD , then terrorism, then freedom!!!
1.WMD….uhh duh
2.Terrorism…see above. More terrorists flocking there to the instability that is Iraq. Net result? Anger, death, more terrorist recruits etc…etc. Saddam never tolerated fundamentalists in Iraq as they were a threat. World is not safer.
3.Freedom..haha..ok, may I have some freedom fries with that?!!? Gee, wonder why Iraq first and not any of the other horrible dictators ’round the world first?
Anyway , I’m a little cynical about the motives. I do enjoy your posts though as they are a lot more rational than most. I’ve been lurking around on the forum for around 5 or 6 years now and I KNOW that you know that Iraq was not good for the war on terror. Georgie Bush will go down in history as the greedy kid who took his eye off the ball( islamic terrorism) so that he could have the candy(oil)
No ABM has been shown to work 100%..and it only needs a few to slip the net…BOOOM.
JJshep.. I would imagine that they would probably use their MRBM that they are working on…It’s too expensive to loft a conventional warhead over more than 2000km using so large a missile. I also assume the CEP of such missiles would preclude using conventional warheads.I would therefore use some form of NBC payload.
“well thats just a stunningly stupid and lame comment there. Yes we bomb civilians its such a productive pasttime – each day we send wave after wave of iron bomb ladden B-52s to obliterate whole Iraqi cities. Yesterday we levelled Basra for fun! today were gonna level Mosul. Oh i think next week were gonna were gonna be launching nation wide commando raids on schools and hospitals then once were done slaughtering the civilians inside were gonna JDAM the buildings to dust! This is the reality of Iraq according to our communist chums.”
Nobody said that, he was talking about the irony of calling someone a coward by planting an IED and bombing from above 15 000ft. Communist chums? You were 11 years old when The Wall came down…what has communism got to do with this?? OOHH..I get it.. it’s a blanket condemnation of anyone not agreeing with you..how clever. I don’t agree with everybody on this forum..hell, I might even agree with something you might say one day..but blanket pt downs like yours show a lack of nuance, wit and brains.. :dev2:
Gudehus..
“And since it was a U.K site I did not expect it to be full of Slimmy Communists.”
Communists on “weigh less”?
“radical postings of Anti American post wich makes up 90% of this thread..”
Free speech. Where there is smoke, there is fire…this is an unpopular war/invasion to say the least. I don’t think any of us can deny that..
“We have cowards in Iraq that dress up in rags and civilan cloths and put little bombs on the side of the road.”
What would you have them do…charge a convoy with satchel charges? For what..to conform to your ideas of what you were trained for? How quaint!! did you learn nothing of assymetrical warefare from Vietnam?
“The U.S would know if Iran had nuclear weapons. And it pains me to see this but, We pretty much knew Iraq had no nuclear weapons.”
I’ve just realized that you are either insane or live in a trailer park.
“Anybody that posts on the boards from Iran.. More then likely one of these mornings really early in the Morning.. You will hear Jets above your mud brick home and watch your country be destroyed before you very own eyes.”
Gee…you sound just like you claim Saddam and the Iranian leader sounds. Do you actually realise how stupid you are? :confused: :p