If serious, and if anything comes from it, it will be interesting.

I’ve alluded throughout the thread that it’s high time Argentina dismissed the “western only” attitude, and there are strong indications in the past that this is happening.

It’s a whole new world out there after the Cold War.

The Russian and Chinese tbo/overhaul concept issues are history, in any event. The more recent products show this.

And along these lines, there are some very good products from them at very good prices.

Every atom on this planet comes from star dust, you just break down into atoms again…. eventually.

From what do these stardust atoms come from?

The delta wings fighters ( kfir/mirages) and Mig-23 were widespread in the 1980s
How did they compare head to head ?
in avionics, performance , armament and any known encounters of them fighting each other ?

I’m only interested in their comparison in the 70-early 90s before the introduction of AIM-120 in service with third world airforces

There is a huge difference between Mirage based deltas between the late 1970’s to early 1990’s, when it comes to certain important features.

Take as an example the difference between the Mirage V and the Cheetah C which fit into that time period.

You are all forgetting the reason for the Yak-38 – it was a point-defence interceptor for the fleet.

It was designed to take out a Nimrod or AWACS – with and additional limited surface attack capability.

As the Soviet Union’s first attempt at an operational VSTOL aircraft it was a reasonable design.

Ken

Not all of us, Ken.

It was a lmited aircraft, but very important in that it was the Soviets first jet fixed wing ship borne aircraft, that was to lead the way to the far more advanced Yak-41.

I could have phrased it a bit better, and elaborated further, but your post I suppose captures far more succinctly what I was trying to convey.

The Yak-38 armed with AA-8 Aphid, gunpack, and fuel tanks would have been formiddable against wide ranging Nimrods and Orions.

It did have some adavanced features, such as a completely automatic landing sequence that required zero input from the pilot, if so required.
Also an automatic ejection seat that activated if certain parameters were crossed.

It was a lmited aircraft, but very important in that it was the Soviets first jet fixed wing ship borne aircraft, that was to lead the way to the far more advanced Yak-41.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?121571-Yak-38-Forger-Info

I got a good laugh out of that, I mean, what kind of logic do you use to come up with such a conclusion. What you’re effectively saying is tht elite Israeli pilots have nothing on rusty old Mig-31pilots. Wonderful humour mate.

A big portion of the Israeli F-16 fleet are older than the Mig-31s.

The 180 hours the RAF are funded for is the minimum since the NATO minimum itself is the same figure. The hours per fast jet pilot in the RAF vary between at least 180 hours (15 per month on average) to 240 hours (18.5 per month on average) which includes take-offs, landings, overhead flights etc and not necessarily simulated 1v1 air combat for example, but excludes international exercises – Red Flag, Frisian Flag, Magic Carpet etc in which case flight hours are significantly increased.

When the RAF received their cuts, entire Harrier fleet chopped as well as the their Nimrod fleet and a majority of their crews as well as other cuts in other areas, their training budget was, and still is, exempt from the cuts.

Thanks for that EELightning.