I’ve been thinking that US aviation is really going downill badly recently with badly run and technically flawed programs such as the F-22, F-35A, B and C, Dreamliner, Super Hornet, Boeing tankers and on top of that the USAF fall back option, their 4th gen fighters, are all thoroughly outclassed by Euro canards etc etc.
Add to this that when the Meteor comes online the US will no longer have the A-A missile monopoly and the rest of the world has now learnt how to design and manufacture low observable warplanes ending the US ‘stealth’ dominance, worse still the foreign stealth fighters will probably work unlike the US jets with their laundry list of show-stopping technicial issues.All that money available to the US and yet its all gone so very wrong, why is this?
The US does not have a monopoly on AAM’s now, and hasn’t had for decades.
There are other countries out there apart from the US and Britain.:rolleyes:
I also think your statement that the US 4th generation fighters are “thoroughly” outclassed by Euro canards” is a little broad.
On topic, I think that US programmes have become a little heavy for years now, especially in the wasting of finances. The US could do cost control a little better perhaps.
Still, you are mentioning some of the programmes with teething problems.
Most aerospace programmes have these troubles.
Are you kidding me? Getting into all the ITAR trouble? Denel Dynamics customer support alone is ****** enough, don’t need ITAR in the game! :rolleyes:
Distiller, I don’t want to derail, but I’m not aware of any issues regarding Denel Dynamics customer support.:confused:
Ecuador.
But it´s said that they are new kfir celulas.
Older are the South African DC-3T for MPA
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The Cheetah C airframes are not that old. There are probably F-16’s flying that are older than the airframes for the Cheetah C.
The DC-3/C-47 Turboprops used in the maritime patrol role were built in the mid 1940’s, making them about 70 years old.
I suppose it depends on what you would define as a combat aircraft.
What a silly thread.
And whilst an Argentinian J-20 may not be likely, the fact is their Defence Minister publically stated an interest in the aircraft by name.
Thus, there is at least merit in discussing the statement, seeing as it is he that signs off on procurement…
Read the article again in the first post on this thread lead me to having another look and read through the thread.
The initial missile was called either T-Darter or S-Darter.
The missile now is called B-Darter.
Looking and reading back through this thread, there appear to be 2 different types of BVRAAM exhibited in mock-up form by Denel Dynamics (Kentron).
There is the one that is obviously based on the Integral missile, shown in post number 11 (SOC) and number 18 (myself).
Then there is also the one in post number 17.
I wonder if these two missile concepts were T-Darter and S-Darter, with B-Darter being a refined version of one of the concepts, or a different missile completely, not even necessarily a ramjet?
Either way, just thinking aloud…….
So I assume that at some stage, probably in the future, the option is there to equip this with a radar in the space shown above, or develop the next model with it, the Pampa III.
Lockheed Martin themselves say the AT-63 Pampa II can be equipped with the multi-mode APG-67(V)4, and the proposed model III would feature a host of other modifications, including the radar.
Anyway, below are some interesting pics showing the nose, which has a seperate cone/radome over it.
In an earlier post, I asked:
I’ve noticed on pictures that it appears to have a nose radome normally associated with a radar installation.
Is it being equipped with one of the small radars, like the Aida or Elta 2001?
The Pampa II is given the following description:
… and a more advanced avionics package compatible with the A-4AR and weapon system.
So i got nosing around..
Six or seven years ago, in 2010 they showed just a couple of planes, nothing else, they were interested in repair all the planes and being operative again, but now they are focused in the new Pampas.
Thanks.
Just make the hull out lead and let it plastically deform as the round goes through.
Not a bad idea actually.
They can then replace the mast with a periscope, so as to limit the radar emissions, making it the worlds first stealth carrier.;)
What is this domestic PGM you are talking about? What sort of PGMs is argentinean air force using these days?
There is the AS-25K, which is a development of the Pescador.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS-25K
I don’t know of any others, but I would be interested if anyone else does.
Just a question but wouldn’t the J-31 be a more likely buy then the J-20 since the Chinese have already said the J-31 is for export?..:confused:
Good point.
The scenario that doesn’t need to be mentioned would need an aircraft with a good internal fuel load, and in-flight refuelling capability.
I suppose the Argentine defence ministers visit was before the unveiling of the J-31, so the game may have changed.
Just a question but wouldn’t the J-31 be a more likely buy then the J-20 since the Chinese have already said the J-31 is for export?..:confused:
Good point.
The scenario that doesn’t need to be mentioned would need an aircraft with a good internal fuel load, and in-flight refuelling capability.
Operated, in the past, they were retired long time ago.
How long is “long time ago”?
The reason I ask is because there are pictures of it still in airforce colours being used in 2010, and reports state that the Cruz del Sur have only just recieved the last of their 4 AT-63 Pampa II in the last 2 or 3 months.
The receipt of the Pampa II is good news.
I’ve noticed on pictures that it appears to have a nose radome normally associated with a radr installation.
Is it being equipped with one of the small radars, like the Aida or Elta 2001?
The article itself is quite interesting, in that it lifts the lid on some of the projects going on at Denel Dynamics (Kentron).
it appears that, due to the limited needs and funding of the South African Air Force, that the various projects have been tested, but await funding go-ahead to industrialise the systems.
Reading between the lines from this public statement, it appears that the BVRAAM is quite advanced, in the sense that the seeker and motor has been conceptualised, built, and tested.
It now awaits funding to complete development and testing in the open environment, and the industrialisation of the components.
This is the type of project perfectly suited to Brazil, just as the A-Darter is.
The Brazilians are getting a good deal with the A-Darter IMHO, as their funding contribution has given them complete access to this missile, including production at the new factory currently being built in Brazil, construction of which is being overseen by Denel.