Granted, and a point well made, if anything its easy to see why they went for frigates come replacement time!.

I’d say the above speaks more to the quality of the men crewing those boats than the suitability of the boats themselves though and, being uncharitable, the lack of a better suited boat to send in most cases?!. Hope thats fair comment!.

Completely fair.

I just wanted to point out that it has been done before.

I agree completely with you that this was driven by necessity, due to the lack of larger vessels as a result of sanctions.
Naturally, as soon as was possible, the 3600 ton Valour class programme was instituted. I’ve no doubt that combat efficiency would have suffered on such small vessels.

It must have been interesting with regards to the mess in some of those extended South Atlantic ocean trips down and around the tip of South America.

^ yeah, must be hot doggie.

Who I suspect was F-18 Hamburger before.;)

I remember Kapedani now.

I had a trawl through his history.

He’s invariably wrong on things. It was interesting that pre PAK-FA, he basically called it vapour ware, and intimated that it was just a flanker upgrade, etc etc. There are other examples.

Given this history, if I was a betting man, I’d be putting money on this thing being whatever the exact opposite of whatever Kapedani is currently saying…

;):D:diablo:

Sure. But even if you were going to, for whatever reason (and I cant think of any)…that contraption it’s sitting on seems needlessly complicated. You can make a simple A-frame to position it at whatever angle you want.

But it is clear now that this is a propaganda trip, whatever the object may be. I don’t think the Chinese bureaucrats get that the more they try to dramatize things, the sillier it looks to everyone else.

So you think this is pure propaganda, and not a real aircraft at all?

A single F125 would provide slightly less thrust than it currently has, & need a complete redesign of half the fuselage.

Indeed.

It would only make sense if you were operating that engine type already.

If I remember correctly, Taiwan had a project in the 1990’s to modify some of their F-5’s with the F-125, which made perfect sense as the F-CK-1 Ching Kuo is powered by the same engine. The Taiwanese also had a large number of F-5 airframes to choose for conversion. (I think the eventually operated around 300?)

Of course, there was the developed upgrade of the F-125, with higher thrust, that would have benefitted both aircraft, but that was cancelled.

Is it the waste treatment works?

Two interesting videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psJ5542JDfw&list=UUNySUJ_fIk-LVPRAPyMfEYg&index=1&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDrpBpbbFfE&list=UUNySUJ_fIk-LVPRAPyMfEYg&index=6&feature=plcp

Nice videos.

How many Super Hinds are in service? How are they doing?

Here’s an interesting video of JF-17. Does anyone know if the HMDS at 7:54 is the same one on Gripen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcZdRfLz0ZU

Hmmm. So Pakistan will be getting a Denel/Kentron helmet copy to go with the A-Darter copy as well?:diablo:

Another thing: At 06:00 into that video, the narrator states that the “time taken from completion of design to first flight was 23 months, a record in the history of aviation.” :rolleyes:

Keep the superlatives coming.