Which is what makes these “questions” from Japan and the US hypocritical and laughable to basically every third world nation in the world.

No one outside of the whites and their allies like the Japanese can possibly believe that it is okay for one party to have 11 carriers and it is not okay for the second party to have even one.

And to top it off, Japan and the West already had a history of invading Chinese territory and killing Chinese civilians.

It is like Germany lecturing Israel to decrease the size and capability of its military. Stupid, racist and insensitive to the extreme.

You are coming over as very racist. As if the white people of the world are homogeneous, all with the same ideals, language, have never fought wars with each other, etc.

Maybe you just slipped in your writing……:rolleyes:

On topic, I’m interested to see what China’s follow up will be. I seem to recall that there are 2 carriers being built at present. I assume they will be an extrapolation of the Varyag design?

Yup.. havent you noticed that only us westerners are allowed to wield a big stick and no one else is allowed?

But at least the old girl has been put to use… how long has the hull sat around? 30yrs?

She’s actually newer than over 50% of the US Navy’s carriers.

Now that is probably one of the most ridiculous things I have read here…and that’s saying something.

It’s not ridiculous.

I have had the same conversation with more than one serviceman from WW2 who have said strongly the same thing. Not even intimated, but strongly said on more than a few occasions.

Regardless whether you personally find this unpalatable.

More importantly, they are obviously keeping clear of the (now remarkably uncluttered) flight deck for a reason 😉

That’s what I meant.;)

They’re clustered in various viewpoints watching something.

On that note, does anyone know exactly what sort of numbers the Z-8 has been produced in? After the initial 13 or so Super Frelons were delivered I mean. I know they have flown an upgraded development called the AC313 (initially a civilian helicopter), but I’ve always thought the basic Super Frelon had much developmental potential. I assume that the Z8 is going to be used extensively by the Chinese naval forces for ASW, SAR, transport/assault, and on-board delivery roles, as well as possibly AEW as seen by that picture posted a while ago with the Z8 with retractable radar.

With upgraded engines (and controls), rotor blades, and avionics, this could be a very useful naval helicopter indeed.

An interesting article written by someone who worked on a sub-project related to the Carver. Interesting to note how close the single-engined prototype was to being built, before the project reshuffle into a twin-engined plane. Interesting links on the page, one of which states that at one time there was a chance to possibly acquire Snecma M88 engines via the Yugoslav Novi Avion project.

http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2011/06/weekend-wings-40-south-africas-franken.html

This picture of a model apparently from a Chinese aerospace exhibition. I’m not going to even attempt to vouch for its accuracy.

Nice pics.

How many Tu-160’s are there? These are the eraly models if I’m not mistaken?
Is that Tu-144 the one used in the testing in co-operation with NASA?

Does anyone know what sort of performance the TU-144 had when fitted with the NK-321?