Here, fishy fishy…….:diablo:
Here, fishy fishy…….:diablo:
I think any country with half a brain would want nuclear weapons. It tends to keep countries like America away and prevents Iraqi style freedom from being imposed on them by someone sitting thousands of miles away.
Who would be crazy enough to want to let a country whose political organizations, religion, people often chant death to America, death to Israel, ect…
Why do they chant these slogans?
A country that has a history of cheating on its agreement not to pursue nuclear arms, is not a country that should have nuclear arms, or a nuclear reactor.
Done playing God yet? And those pesky Arabs hate you for your freedom…:rolleyes: Also, I think cheating and lying is not the sole preserve of others…look in the mirror. FACT: Nuclear weopons have only been used on other human beings by one single country on this planet…..guess who?
I realize some day probably all nations including Iran will have nuclear power, but hopefully it will be of a more peaceful nature.
Yes, but let me guess…you’re allowed to keep your WMD’s. How naive.
Eventually I would like to see nuclear power generation in all countries. However I would prefer to keep the nuclear weapon club small and exclusive.
Thank you for letting the rest of us breathe…
I think any country with half a brain would want nuclear weapons. It tends to keep countries like America away and prevents Iraqi style freedom from being imposed on them by someone sitting thousands of miles away.
Who would be crazy enough to want to let a country whose political organizations, religion, people often chant death to America, death to Israel, ect…
Why do they chant these slogans?
A country that has a history of cheating on its agreement not to pursue nuclear arms, is not a country that should have nuclear arms, or a nuclear reactor.
Done playing God yet? And those pesky Arabs hate you for your freedom…:rolleyes: Also, I think cheating and lying is not the sole preserve of others…look in the mirror. FACT: Nuclear weopons have only been used on other human beings by one single country on this planet…..guess who?
I realize some day probably all nations including Iran will have nuclear power, but hopefully it will be of a more peaceful nature.
Yes, but let me guess…you’re allowed to keep your WMD’s. How naive.
Eventually I would like to see nuclear power generation in all countries. However I would prefer to keep the nuclear weapon club small and exclusive.
Thank you for letting the rest of us breathe…
Sorry lads… been a very busy start to 2007 for me..will post those pics, I promise!:D
Here is an interesting related thread in the meantime…
http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?t=642&start=0
Hmmm….wonder why no one replied..:rolleyes:
Hmmm….wonder why no one replied..:rolleyes:
Attachments too large, will resize them later. If I have a further drawing on the Integral which comes out of a recently released book, may I post it here with the original copyrighters name or do I have to get their permission?
This is just an awesome picture…one of the best I’ve seen.
That’s the one Sean. I have a couple of larger black ‘n white pics that are clearer and will post them today.
WOW! Fantastic pictures Krav. Many thanks. Got any more?
Found that piccy of the Integral ramjet project… will scan them in as soon as I can.
I thought that the A-Darter was a smaller missile.:confused:
mmmmmmmmm..?
Further info from Business Day 3rd January 2007.
SA ties up missile deal with Brazil for Denel, Armscor
A government-to-government agreement between SA and Brazil has been signed for a joint venture between Armscor, Denel and the Brazilian air force for the development of missiles.
The Brazilians have committed $52m to the project, which will be led by Denel in collaboration with its Brazilian counterparts, Denel spokesman Sam Basch said at the weekend.
In total, the project has been estimated to be worth about R300m. In terms of the agreement, Denel will develop its A-Darter short-range air-to-air missile from a prototype to an operational system.
Denel has already invested considerable sums in developing the missile prototype but has been constrained by a lack of funding to take it to the next stage.
Basch said the agreement, signed a week ago, was a further step in intensifying missile co-operation between Denel and the Brazilians, who opted for Denel as its partner because of Denel`s proven capability in the missile field.
Basch said Denel hoped that other projects would flow from the missile agreement. He said Brazil, for example, would in future require attack helicopters and could be interested in Denel`s Rooivalk.
Meanwhile, the finalisation of the Turkish government tender for attack helicopters has been postponed for the third time — this time until next month.
Denel is competing against the deal`s other preferred bidder, Agusta Aerospace of Italy, for the estimated $2bn tender. Basch said no reasons were given by the Turkish government for the delay in reaching a decision, though he added that Turkey was known for taking a long time to finalise such matters.
Two rival bids, from French Eurocopter Tiger and Russian Kamov KA50-2, were eliminated in the tender. Basch stressed that the delay had no financial or other implications for Denel as the contract had not been built into its budget or its restructuring programme, which is aimed at turning the loss-making arms manufacturer around to profit.
Winning the Turkish contract will ensure the survival of the Rooivalk, which has been sold only to the South African Air Force, which bought 12 helicopters in 1999. Since then Denel has not been successful in finding other buyers for the Rooivalk.
Denel made a fifth successive loss in sits financial year to end March.
Yet very little ‘hard’ info or pictures around of the R-Darter. I understood the secrecy aspect of South Africa whilst under an arms embargo, but not a lot of information is released even today on weapons/subsystems.
I have variously seen that R-Darter has a range of 60km with a ‘combat range’ of 30km. I’m not sure what this refers to… a ‘no-escape’ zone perhaps?
I do hope that they go through with an indigenous missile though. I remember that T-Darter (or S-Darter) was mooted a few years back. I know Brazil are co-operating on the A-Darter, to what level though I’m unsure. Apparentely their current AAM uses a Darter IR seeker head anyway.
I will attempt to dig out the picture of the Integral project and scan it some time soon.