Since it lacks the small pitot tubes on the side of the fuselage this might not be a flying airframe but just for demo or test purpose.
Yes, is the T-50-7 i.e.the static test bed used to develop the lighter frame.
Or maybe the aircraft was just very light, little internal fuel? Impressive none the less…
Put any limitation one could imagine but the idea of deploying chutes BEFORE touching ground is just pure GENIUS!:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
Or almost of capacity of thinking out of the box…:rolleyes:
Surely the fact that program S-70 has reached a fundamental point like the first flight is a good news for any military aviation aficionado.
The fact that the US UCLASS program passed from a truly UCAV to an ISR platform and ended up like a fuel tanker should instead be a warning for not get too much into a running competition to get it first than the others.
Problem of all the unmanned vehicles is not just the platform but the software, the sensor and the situational awareness you will get from it.
Or if I can use another wording it is not about getting it first but about getting it right i.e. with an A.I. able to manage autonomously the larger part of the mission, affordable, flexible and reliable enough to allow its use as a mass produced strike plane and not, as actually still happen, as a niche asset for COIN (or looking to some middle-east models even Pro-IN :dev2:) missions, seriously limited by bandwidth consumption.
Needless to say, russian modus operandi for what it comes to design and development processes, although complex and time consuming , fit almost perfectly to this sort of cross-country race.
S-70 Okhotnik has performed its first flight today.
Our is quite strong but the article fail to grasp the real difference between the two positions;
Grottaglie is not a Base, it’s an Air Station (in a civilian airport also).
Bases of F-35 will be Cavour and Trieste:,Grottaglie is the place where they (and all of the fleet’s air assets) would go when either their ship or them are not operative.
Fact is that these ships carry also a whole lotta load of helos that would go to Grottaglie anyway as AMI didn’t just have the same models in its own inventory, same apply to AV-8II also
AMI’s ones a.t.c. would normally operate from Amendola, together with F-35A: in case of need they would be detached to a forward base, naturally including also Cavour or Trieste but they Will never call them Home.
Levsha, the data is there to be read: if a plane whose assembly line closed in 2012, in 2018 still has a 50% availability rate, one cannot justify it neither saying that it is still too recent (like in the F-35 case) nor that it is too old (like is in the F-15C case-NOT), so there would be another reason and not a positive one.
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Making comparisons between planes from different air force is always difficult, we are talking about mission capable rate here, average flight hours/years is another completely different parameter.
Maybe is the metaphor that i used that made it look harsher than intended: raw ,ripe and rotten are here to be intended like referred to fruit and vegetables process of maturation, that sometimes just doesn’t work the right way.
interesting the F-15s are consistently more ready than the smaller F-16s
I have made an half humorous post before but you have to consider that only a fraction of the F-15C is still in regular units, majority are in ANG instead.
So they have surely a less requiring schedule.
Most worrying one about the legacy fighters is IMHO the sudden fall of the F-15E rates instead.
F-35 is still really too early to judge but Raptors seven years after their assembly line closure have clearly passed from raw to rotten without ever being ripe…
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So after all debating about the F-15X it turns out that the F-15C, whose acquisition by Usaf ended in ‘mid eighties, is still the one fighter with higher mission capable rate?
Dunno if :highly_amused: or:apologetic:.
A new image … :applause:
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I can’t wait for the first (real) flight.
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in reality the output was more like 16 Su-35S in one year. They supplied 6 or 8 units for VKS, the rest for China(and possible Indonesia).
But just remember the Flanker linage is a well proven design, the Su-57 is not. It takes years to set up the prod line and make it efficient, years..
No, it reached 20 each year, problem was that Chinese didn’t want to wait neither a couple of years to get their own so they had to split production 50/50 until order was fulfilled, actually they ended with 78 consigned last year in front of a total of 98 ordered.
@ TomcatVIP
My remark was more on the fact that the number are far less looking ambitious than what we got used with the old days. Such a modest output would mean that the cost of systems will stay high and would remain marginal in their expected fall out for the Russian civilian industry. If I can understand that many thing can happen until then, it’s usually a larger order that is announced first before being eventually trimmed or even cancelled later.
The 57 is a fantastic airframe and, as an aviation fan, I would be disappointed not to see them flying in squadrons.
A.t.c. the Su-57 order has been saluted in Russia as a decisive depart from this trend, as an example the above mentioned Su-35S were ordered in TWO contracts one of 48 and another of 50, BOTH signed in the framework of 2011-2020 SAP.
Yes, because it perfectly possible to sign more than a single contract for the same plane in a single SAP, both referring to a single production concern than to different ones.
In the case of Su-35s things get complicated by the fact that the follow-up SAP was delayed because the conflict in UA, so instead of a 2016-2025 one as it would have been in the regular sequence, it became the 2018-2027 SAP.
Follow up programs remained in the current one and the ones referring to completely new item were started last year.
Next SAP however will not be 2028-2037 but 2023-2032, so a new contract would be perfectly possible after the new starting date.
In any case , given the numbers involved, Su-57 contract seems instead a real bargain, 170B rubles for 76 planes i.e. less than 35 mil $ for plane (is not however all gold what glitters, as in those year ruble get really depreciated compared to $, so no, it would not cost less than a newly produced Su-35S in any case).
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8 airframe per year…
TU QUOQUE TOMCATE!
If even a competent poster like you fall for the usual “in the framework of (in the said case) 2028 State Acquisition Program” it seems there is not any hope to keep it straight.
I have published a different post almost ten times between this forum and Russian defence to explain what the term exactly means and how it have NOT ANY RELATION with both the total than the average number of planes a given production concern would produce yearly, so give me the time to get back into the thread and paste the last one I have done and republish it.
Iran unveils new version of armed stealth UAV
Two interesting videos about said item and many other UAV/UCAV used by Iran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag9Ri37Sagc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15mG0FUqlk4
What to say?
Certainly the capability of Pasdarans to think Out of the Box is 101% confirmed there.
Technicals now have their own Air Force and it can even be a 5 gen one!
No parachute either, as claimed by jane. just retractabile skids.
UAV/UCAV are taking back the capability of develop and introduce in service new models in a reasonable period of time that conventional planes seems to have lost, RQ-170 was downed in 2012, Saegheh -1 was presented in 2016, the more advanced and design refined Saegheh-2 is already out and fully operative in 2019.
The primary requisites of sorveillance and strike drones are different one another: just compare how out of place the weapons carried under the wings of the otherwise well designed Sahed-129 look when compared to the conformal carriages or even the inner bombs bays of the strike ones.
May I say that those rules are quite absurd?
They will be evaluating planes in a configuration that would be outdated when they would acquire them without considering not just a future version , with all possible developmental risk associated to this option but even an already existing, just still not operative one.
They have several point in common (general Layout) but at the same time they look different.
While Eurofighter and rafale were derived by a common preliminary design, however, those ones have not any point in common.
They are however just mock-ups, given the time both would require to develop both of them would change radically IMHO.
Maybe for the same reasons because our ASPIDE missiles despite not having a single bolt in common with AIM-7E still retained its external body (that we were already licence producing): to quickly adapt it to existing launchers.
Because of it, there is still someone around that, contrary to all evidences, still consider it a derivative of the Sparrow and not a completely different product as it is.
Ought to remember how ASPIDE itself passed from fixed to foldable and finally to a new fixed, low encumber cropped delta fins that fit the same in the ground launchers but greatly eased manutention and handling.
MiCA, like Aspide is also a ground and sea launched missile so IMHO it make a lot of sense to deploy an advanced version of it for those uses i.e. to not being forced to trash existing launchers or a.t.c. to not limit performance of the new one in order to made it fit in them.
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