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  • in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1127048
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    Ok so I feel free to ask wot plane :

    Registration is retouched, naturally.
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    in reply to: DC-3 Barrel rolling #1127153
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    Inverted straight and level flight.

    What is the principal difference between “hanging in the straps” and sitting on the seat ? Both keep the pilot fixed in respect to the airframe. Same weight upside down or inverted. The pilot may feel uncomfortable as the blood presure in the head rises or the organs move in direction of the head . But treating the pilot as a physical body there is no difference. The same with the lift of the wings. Maybe the engine feels uncomfortable in inverted flight but no difference in flight dynamics.

    Is there another definition of g as I quoted above g=n=lift/ weight ?

    in reply to: DC-3 Barrel rolling #1127160
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    Agreed. And the G Meter (if fitted) would read negative in the first instance,

    First instance ….you mean inverted straight and level flight ? This is not a curved flight path so lift is equal to weight. No additional forces . I think no “g”s positive or negative.
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    That brings me to the question: What is the neutral position of a g-meter ? =0 or +1 ? How does it work ?
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    in reply to: DC-3 Barrel rolling #1127303
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    In aviation “g” is used as another term for “n” the load factor, which is defined as the ratio between lift and weight (n=L/W ) and is therefore dimensionless.

    For the following we have to note that we speak only of forces in the vertical axis of the aicraft, which is fixed to the aircraft but not fixed to the earth. And we define lift as an aerodynamic force created mainly by the wing acting in the vertical axes of the aircraft regadless of the position of the a/c in space.

    The load factor is a criteria for the structural design of an aircraft.

    Base condition is the load factor n= 1 (1g) the condition of steady linear flight (“straight and level).

    The resultant lift is in equilibrum with the weight of the aircraft.

    In aircaft design consideration has to be taken for additional forces generated by a curved flightpath. That may be in unsteady climb and descends (up to loops ) or turning flight . Structural design is limited by a maximum positive resp. negative load factors n (g).

    Curved flight in any position of the aircaft in space generates centrifugal forces which has to be opposed by additional lift which causes additional stress to the airframe..

    In an inverted straight and level flight lift is generated as well by the wing which is at an angle of attack to the airstream (may be not possible with any aircraft, though) and is as well in equilibrium with weight.

    The pilot and passengers have to be strapped in not to fall earthwards like a glove or a cup of tea on the coaming.

    If you generate a centrifugal force in a curverd path by applying up elevator, even flying inverted, the objects will stick to the aircaft. They are restrained by the coamimg or seat and therefore have to follow the curved path and a centrifugal force is exerted on them as well, which then keeps them pressed to the aircraft against the weight.

    That may apply to an ordinary inside loop but also to some sort of corkscrew roll.

    Same naturally applies in the bank of a turn.

    You do not need the term “g” to describe these effects.
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    in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1127442
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    So here are the links I found about the LNB 11 Lacroix:

    Picture seems to be from here

    http://erasme46.over-blog.com/article-barret-de-nazaris-le-pou-du-ciel-l-autoplan-laberaudie-cahors-47543693.html

    or here

    http://erasme46.over-blog.com/ext/http://pagesperso-orange.fr/terres.ciel/galerie.htm

    Some background information (in French) with a 3-view drawing here

    http://erasme46.over-blog.com/ext/http://www.rsab.be/download/autoplan.pdf

    Some pictures of the Lacroix LNB-12 Autoplan here

    http://tagazous.free.fr/affichage.php?appareil=Lacroix+LNB-12+Autoplan
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    I´m still not sure what is the country of origin ? (Belgian ?), as avion ancien wrote

    Amazing. I’ve identified an aeroplane that didn’t originate from France or the UK!

    in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1127556
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    We do this for fun, and to learn!

    I appreciate that. It is exactly my attitude.:)

    in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1127678
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    No credit for me !

    I found a photo and a drawing but there is no proof as I waited with my post because I did not know when I´m allowed to take part in the quiz again after my recent win.

    And anyway wout found “Lacroix-(de Nazaris)-Bourdin” and that was the essential hint for me.

    in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1127714
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    I think I guess it.

    But : Is there a rule that one has to wait a certain time after winning in the quiz ?
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    in reply to: DC-3 Barrel rolling #1127724
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    http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2261/c271.jpg
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    A screenshot from a video. Is this C-27J nearly halfway through a 360 deg roll ?

    Have a look here at 1:50 – 2:10 in the timeline.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4UJbpVP-U

    Additional maneouvers here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAliSbig5FA&feature=related
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    in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1128423
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    in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1128475
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    Im afraid, not.
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    in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1128517
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    The next:
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    in reply to: The "Wot Plane" Thread. (Game rules in Post #1) #1129209
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    Fairchild Model 46
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    in reply to: DC-3 Barrel rolling #1130027
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    The question is not if the photo is upside down but if the caption is right . The barrel roll quoted in the caption may well be a wing over seen from below, as the organizer confirmed.

    in reply to: DC-3 Barrel rolling #1130627
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    N49AG c/n 11737 was reported to have barrel rolled at the La Comina Airshow Italy on 26 June 2010. Amazing I can only find this picture presumably exiting. http://www.sergiovaccher.it/html/comina_27_-_28__giugno_.html please scroll thru. Any further news welcome . At the show the AMI C27J ,CL415 were put thru some amazing attitudes.

    There is a picture of it upside down in the latest Propliner magazine. :eek::eek:

    A member of the La Comina organizers just confirmed that the barrel roll was made by the C27-J . And the picture of the DC-3 is the top of a wingover.

    With this backing I immediately contacted the editor of Propliner magazine and asked him to contact me with Ugo Vicenzi , the Propliner photographer, to finally clear this barrel-roll issue first hand.

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