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  • in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 6 #2245446
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    I think you have biased view on J-20. It may not be pretty, but is not a ugly plane. China always built plane long. J-10 looks pretty long with respect to wing span, but it is still agile plane. J-20 have small wings but big canard. Too few of video of j-20 to judge if it good for dogfight or not.

    in reply to: J-20 Thread 8 #2213731
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    Aerodynamic question.

    Root of J-20 canards is on the same position to main wings while canards on Rafale is above the wings. Is this why the Chinese have no choice but to angle the canard above the wings to generate vortex to the same effect?

    in reply to: J-20 Thread 8 #2213766
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    ARe there any advantage of 2 pieces of glass for canopy vs 1? is it is cheaper to manufacture 2 than 1.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2253437
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    no true. J-31 has much small engines whereas f-23, 22 have the same engines. J-20 and j-20, su-27 and mig29, f15 and f16, these are high and low fighters

    in reply to: PAK-FA thread about information, pics, debate ⅩⅩⅢ #2265655
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    any news or pictures on weapon trail?

    in reply to: Lightning vs MiG-23 #2270295
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    Such an armament was typical for interceptor designs from the 1950s: MiG-21, Mirage III, Su-9/11/15.

    su-11 and 15 were armed with radar homing missiles and maybe 2 other IR missiles. Even smaller Mirage and Mig-21 (later version) were armed with SarH missiles. For a size fighter such as Lightning, it only carried 2 IR missiles. Badly placed landing gears leave no room for under wings pylons. Not much internal fuel. Internal space is mostly occupied by air ducts to the engines because of top and bottom arrangement. The supercruise, fast climbing Lightning was eventually replaced by f-4 and Tornado with lower climbing rate.

    I rather have Xf8u-3, Phantom and F-106, designed from the 1950s.

    in reply to: Lightning vs MiG-23 #2270458
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    Lightning is the most overrated fighter interceptor. It only carry 2 missiles, can’t fire head on.

    Mig-23 is very underrated. Good speed and acceleration.

    in reply to: best looking stealth fighter #2270461
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    From side and bottom view, YF-23 is very ugly. YF-22 is ugly, F-22 is most pretty. x-32 is the most ugliest. J-20 looked too long from the side view, but the front is okay.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2270963
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    Any chance Russian joining the AMCA project? Russian can’t afford just building Pak Fa in high number. They need a medium size fighter to fill up the inventory.
    Sharing cost will be win win for both countries. It will be achieved in less 12-15 years.

    OR If russian already have a Medium size project, why not join them?

    in reply to: J-20 Thread 8 #2271026
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    [QUOTE=TomcatViP;2049556]Ok but he didn’t talk about carrier. Pickets ship, AEGIS, tankers, AWACS doesn’t need a huge warhead. As he said, just imagine what can achieve a “simple” Phoenix type missile with some PifPaf tech, KEV etc…

    F-22, Pak Fa, mig-31, F-14 all can do these, I guess they are designed for anti CVBG mission.

    in reply to: J-20 Thread 8 #2272173
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    It is pretty silly to think the Chinese build j-20 to attack CVBG. I don’t think its “long weapon bay” can carry stand off anti ship missiles, like C802. The weapon bay may be larger than F-22’s, but a tiny bit larger. Even if it can fit a C802 missile, with 300 to 400lb warhead, it doesn’t make a dent to a CVBG. A larger stealth cruiser missile in a 1950s bomber platform is more effective than a J-20. You need medium bombers, like Tu-22 and su-34 carrying huge supersonic missiles versus CVBG.

    J-20 vs CVBG will never happen. Any serious confrontation will lead to all out nuclear war. J-20’s role is just like F-22 with secondary strike capability, carrying short range air to ground missiles or small bombs for low intensive conflicts.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2275782
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    Here is my thought, I got not thing to backup my BS.

    New new PL-15 is clearly designed for close packing because its wings are cropped. their body dimension is roughly equal to PL-10. If the Chinese originally think they only need 4 missiles in the main bays. They can fit 4 PL-10s in there without any problem. It doesn’t make any sense for them do design another missile, PL-15 with similar size.
    If they want to fit 4 missiles in the first place, they would make it more efficient by making PL-15 a little bigger because, there are clearly more room left after fitting 4 PL-15. Wasting alot of space.
    I could be wrong. I think the chinese will make the hardpoints more flexible where they can move the harpoints attachments left or right, forward and backward for air to air and air to ground missiles.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2277980
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    Can they pyramid stack the third missile in the middle? Weapon bay is deep, but not that deep.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2278304
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    There is no way to pack 6 missiles unless they shift the middle pylon hardpoint forward like in f-22 to clear the fins, even for a smaller missile like Amraam.

    they can rotate the middle missile 45 deg with the one of the fins recessed into the pylon, but then middle missile have to fire first because it overlaps the top 2 missiles.

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2236544
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    Is it a technical challenge to fold the “movable fins” in AA missile. The only one I saw was R77 (not conventional fins), but they fold forward.

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