Hi, Have the horrendous queues gone please?
Just set up my account and was a little surprised to find top up threshold is £10 and min top up is £10. That means they have £10 times the number of accounts in the bank almost all the time. For infrequent users this is a bit much but with interest rates as they are and the 83p reduction then it is OK but the principle not.
My Oyster top up threshold is £10 but then I would use that in one day out whereas the £10 bridge would probably last me the year.
Crossed north to south at 17:15 today no queues either direction.
Moggy, Thanks for mentioning dartsave, I looked at them after one of your previous posts and of course they charge you the full £2.50 for this service.
Being the anally retentive type of person I am I did look at the cost to me.
Before my single crossing yesterday my account balance was £10. One crossing reduced it to £8.33 so immediately a ten pound top up!!!!! Thus they now have £18.33. However, you have saved 83p. If you didn’t use the crossing again for 12 months then you would only be better off if you had had the money invested at a return greater than 4.5% which is tricky these days. Of course, if you need the £20 it’s a different matter.
What I object to is them holding so much money when the unit charge is relatively so low when compared to public transport and an Oyster card, with the exception of buses that is. Although you could argue their income from the money held contributes to the reduction in the crossing charge.
I did worn you I am OCPD!!!
Paul
Are you saying that £10 is the minimum you can have in your Sanef account ?
With the minimum TopUp £10 ?
Yes, £10 to set up account. Minimum top up is £10 and min top up threshold is £10. Thus set up account £10. Drive through once balance drops below £10 so immediately topped up with £10. Thus my account stands at £18.33. In contrast my none auto top up Oyster is actually 25p in debit!!! The auto top up figures I gave for Oyster in a previous post are actually out of date the top up threshold is now £10 and the minimum top up is £20. However, it doesn’t top up until the next time you use it after the journey it has fallen below the threshold. It is possible that this is something to do with the daily capping. Thus a £10 buffer seems reasonable. From my zone a daily peak cap is £10.60 and off peak is £7.70 for all modes of transport. So a couple of trips up to and around central London soon consumes around £20 so this all seems fairly reasonable. Thus a trip from Bromley in south London to the RAF Museum in Hendon north London which uses main line/tube and bus costs £7.70 off peak or £10.60 peak.
Even when I permanently lived in Bromley I very rarely used the crossing but frequently used public transport. Any length of bus or tram journey from January is £1.50 capped if you only use buses/trams at £4.40 per day. You can now use contactless payment cards as well. In contrast the return fare from Burtonwood to Warrington, less than six miles, is £5!!!!!
In my view the crossing system is out of proportion to the charge and should be £5 threshold and £5 minimum top up.
If this system proves ‘efficient’ perhaps it could be rolled-out over the whole road system? 😉
Now there’s a cheery thought first thing in the morning! I hate all forms of indirect taxation. Pay once on income and then you know exactly how much tax you are paying and you save all the overheads of operating all the different schemes. But then I am naive.
Paul F That looks interesting please keep us informed how that goes. Do you get email reminders? My concern would be keeping track of the balance and topping up at the right time. The consequence of getting it wrong could be painful!! An email warning of low balance would of course resolve that problem. I suppose as a low frequency user one would be more likely to check the balance each time.
Paul
How? Are there barriers? Or security staff to give pursuit?
Neither they just accept that they will loose £6m a year and just increase the “charge”, it is not a “toll” apparently, all the law abiding travellers to cover the loss!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23334597
Interestingly the original PFI contract required what was originally a toll to cease when the debts had been paid off. However, as usual this was the thin end of the wedge and when the time came in 2002 the government changed it from a toll to a charge to keep the revenue stream.
Perfect return trip today, south to north no hold ups anywhere M25, M1 and M6. 10:30 at the crossing no queues, for the crossing, in either direction. The toll gates have not been removed yet on the tunnel side so you still have to channel through and rather bizarrely the barriers are still in operation so you still have to hesitate between each vehicle for the barrier to go down and up again! They were still dismantling the booths on the bridge side so it will probably be a week or so before they have room to bypass the tunnel booths.
From what I could see last evening the northbound crossing was being diverted around the barriers – presumably because traffic flow was lighter than when I crossed on Saturday morning?
Paul F
I think it is now that the southbound barriers are gone traffic northbound can now be diverted round the barriers in the space previously occupied by the southbound barriers. This will allow the northbound barriers to be removed and then the roads in both direct can be realigned on a straighter path. There will not be the need for as many lanes as there were booths as there is no point in having more lanes than the roads each side.
Thanks for the info ColFord.
Bunsen Honeydew well I don’t like it and consider it sharp practice and it does stop me leaving advanced bids of any value greater than £6-7. I just have to live with it.
The auction house is on a trading estate which is located on land which was RAF Burtonwood so it is possible that these data plates have their origin there. Incidentally, there is now absolutely nothing left of RAF Burtonwood, (unless buried, of course) the vast apron which was the last remaining feature has now been ground up. The usual thing industrial estates and housing with road names like “Lockheed”.
So the plates did not sell in the timed auction ending on Sunday and they are now lotted in the Home & Garden auction on this Wednesday 31 July 2024 starting at 09:00. The lowest hammer price they will accept is £6. If they do not sell then they may enter them again in 2 weeks or they will bin them. I am not personally interested in them but if they are heading for the skip I will try and get them.
https://www.warringtonauction.co.uk/catalogue/lot/f0053248c27e5d55f0fac…
The charges are cheaper if you use Warrington Live for the live auctions but that will not be an option for the timed auction which is on The Saleroom.
Always happy to report on, take pictures of any lots that members may be interested in.
If bidding on the “live” auctions my advice is not to leave a so called “maximum bid”. It is my experience that the auctioneer will say start for asking for bids at £100, if no takers he will continue asking for bids at several lower prices. However, when he reaches £50 he will take your recorded advanced maximum bid so you may end up bidding significant more than necessary.
This auction house does allow you to see hammer prices of previous auctions.
They didn’t sell. The auction house had put an estimate of £10 to £20. The minimum hammer price that the auction house will accept on any lot is £6. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to follow the auction live but I would think the auctioneer probable came down to £6. The lot will now appear in the timed auction that closes from 19:00 on Sunday. If it does not sell then it may be re-entered in the next Military auction or possibly/probably will appear in the next Home and Garden Auction. If they do not sell then in all probability they may be heading for the skip.
Again happy to post them for anybody on here rather than pay the Auction House postage fee of £19.20!
Many thanks for your interest it will be interesting to see if they sell. I will not be bidding on them but happy to post them to anybody on here.
Did I see a DC3 etc near Blackpool airport on Monday 24 June?
Very sad, blue skies.