paul1867I thought people laughed AT Russell Brand. And you didn’t mention Alf Garnet, cutting edge for TV at the time. Many people just did not understand what it was really about and many complained.
Oh, and you didn’t mention Voltaire, I do like a nice bit of Voltaire, I may not agree…….and all that.:D:dev2:
paul1867I thought people laughed AT Russell Brand. And you didn’t mention Alf Garnet, cutting edge for TV at the time. Many people just did not understand what it was really about and many complained.
Oh, and you didn’t mention Voltaire, I do like a nice bit of Voltaire, I may not agree…….and all that.:D:dev2:
paul1867Congratulations for raising the money and well done, you all deserve it. Clear information of what the funding is for and regular updates showing the progress keeps alive interest in this worthy project. Will be along on Saturday and looking forward to an all round great day.
Thank you for the information on 795 although it’s a pity it has to come from you. Like most I have made a small donation but it would have been more if there had been more information, well actually any information would be nice, at least what this specific money is for.
paul1867WL795
Welcome to the forum and thank you for your informative post but you have highlighted the precise problem. Without a doubt all on here want to save the airframe and many are willing to contribute the problem is that there is no reliable information.
David Burke in #37 is right people need to know more before parting with more than £10. As WL747 in #40 £10 is just a punt. I hope you get your money and I understand the speed at which you needed to move and admire what you have done but IMHO to get in the sort of money you need you will require a proper website similar to the Peoples Mosquito which gives costings and time scales.
Regular updates on what is going on keeps people interested and when they see progress will contribute again. It has to be marketed.
What is at the back of every bodies minds is what we have seen before, try this link, http://www.spitfireheritagetrust.com/, which was asking for money and they still are on Facebook.
I wish you the very best and you have my £10 and I am not one who has “liked”.
paul1867There are certain topics that just keep going over the same old ground time and time again. Hanging airframes is one of them.
Moggy
And fence sitting is another.:D:D
paul1867It is difficult to see how that is going to work with new people coming to the thread who wont necessarily understand this. Perhaps an adjustment to the title like that other thread, Duxford Diary “NEWS ONLY PLEASE”
iGol66 welcome to the forum and thank you for illustrating my point so clearly.
Serious drift here on last years DxX Diary discussing hanging planes and Lambeth, scroll to bottom of page http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?128152-Duxford-Diary-2014/page4&highlight=1417808507, guilty as charged.
Duxford Diary (2015) News only please.
Duxford Discussions
and I found 5 threads about Lambeth.
paul1867No Peter, agreeably, is that not what we are discussing? The clue may be in the threads title! I cannot see anything wrong in having a thread “Duxford Discussion” and at least two threads already exist for Lambeth.
Without getting too pedantic, and having looked it up, it is a record of a series of events and whilst I do not know who the OP was and cannot speak for him I do wonder if that is what he intended. Pen Pusher is one of the three consistent posters and all three do no more than post excellent pictures with info about them and what is going on. He clearly feels that the intention of posting his pictures is to keep others who are not able to visit informed and not to provide evidence for discussions. I can see his point. I remember when the BBC news was called just that and I moaned that there was also discussion which was analyses clearly others did too as it was changed to news and discussion.
Personally I am happy with discussion on the diary thread because it flows better, however, I respect the contributors views and if the posting of photos dries up the thread will be finished anyway.
The word censorship has already been used and no doubt Mr. Voltaire will be along next and we all know where that leads as we have already been there in another place. To hang or not to hang has already been done to death on other threads and for all I know this one.
The bottom line is that it would be impossible to mod anyway and I am sure you don’t want/need that either. I feel is up to us to respect the main contributors wishes and start another thread for discussions. I cannot see why everybody would not be happy with that. No censorship just a time and a place.
Regards
Paul
paul1867Duxford Wednesday 29th April:
Please forgive the smaller amount of coverage than usual:
Absolutely nothing to forgive I am sure most of us are very happy with anything you are able to post. And whilst we wait we chat nicely amongst ourselves.:D
As ever thank you, and the others for sharing all your excellent photos.
paul1867Apologies for being a Duxford fanboy then, but it’s like a friend of mine said the other week, “when you visit Duxford, your life expectancy immediately doubles”. I love Duxford to bits and would not like to see one of the most popular threads on this forum be deleted due to other people’s personal agenda’s and pathetic cheap-shots just to stir the pot.
Again I basically agree with what you say but not the way you choose to say it. I have not seen pathetic cheap shots or pot stirring or personal agendas that I am aware of. Expressing personal opinions, yes and there is nothing wrong in that per se just not on this thread as are the wishes of the main contributors, although I in no way speak for them.
If anybody wants to continue this discussion may I respectfully suggest a new thread is started and move on here.
paul1867David_K yes it is sad but David B beat me to it I was going to make the same point. It was also very unfortunate that the appeal also clashed with an appeal for 963 and the work of this group is well known.
I understand that the main guy has secured money on his house in order to buy 795. The tendering to buy process probably did not allow time to produce much concrete information so if it has been bought and saved then the man should be admired. However, he now needs to raise the money following the demise of a much larger enterprise to it is understandable that people are wary.
As David B says we now need all the figures and that dreaded thing called a business plan and that plan needs to be viable. I am happy to contribute just to save the airframe from destruction but it would be nice to know that it has got a permanent home even if it is only a corner of a field and it wont be sold for scrap at a later date to clear debts. In my view a website is absolutely vital with as many hard facts as possible as to where the money is going and that the aeroplane is owned by a charitable trust not a private individual. The sooner this is done the more likely donations will come in.
I just wish that the MOD would stop selling off our heritage for what amounts to a har’p’orth of tar in the relation to government debt. No doubt there are rules about disposal by competitive tending but their should be exemption for heritage items.
paul1867Looks like a Swedish Herc. Presumably out of Cambridge?
Thanks for that does that make it an E then?
paul1867+1
paul1867Or ‘Duxford fanboy page’?
No, not at all. The main contributors give their time to publish pictures of the goings on at DX. This gives us all the excellent opportunity of enjoying their pictures. The pictures are posted without critical comment either way. All they are asking is that discussions about DX should be in another thread. That seems quite reasonable to me.
The last time the Diary descended into a ‘discussion’ by a couple of people with an axe to grind, it got deleted.
If this is now a discussion thread then no point in posting any photos on it.
Brian
Unfortunately our posts crossed. I am sure that that is what we all want to avoid and should agree to take discussions elsewhere. It is difficult to see how that is going to work with new people coming to the thread who wont necessarily understand this. Perhaps an adjustment to the title like that other thread, Duxford Diary “NEWS ONLY PLEASE”
paul1867So once again the Duxford Diary thread has gone from a reference of activities taking place at Duxford to a platform for a vocal minority to air their personal agendas against the museum. Again. That should be taken to a separate thread so you can throw yours toys about to your hearts content and leave the Diary for the enjoyment of the majority.
Brian
Whilst I do not necessarily disagree with what you are saying I certainly disagree with the way you said it. I respect the views of the OP and what he intended for this thread although I don’t go back far enough to know who that actually was although, of course, I know who are the the main and most excellent contributors which includes your good self. I am also aware that the thread was down for a short while last year and nobody wants a repeat of that. I agree the thread had drifted to an unacceptable level and said so in a nice way. I am a supporter of the museum but nothing is or should be above criticism however I agree some points have already been fully covered. I have been fortunate to be able to visit several times this year and do have a none aviation criticism but decided that this was not the place to raise it although it would have been handy to know what other people thought. As you say a separate thread.
The valid point is that the wishes of the major contributors and OP to this thread, who are able to get access that is not available to others, should be respected, and I certainly accept that. So discussions about how the museum is run should be the subject of a new threads.
So guys we all love the thread and respect the main contributors and we should respect their wishes on how this particular thread is run. So, if I understand this right, we should not make posts in this thread that may embarrass the relationship these main contributors have with the museum.
paul1867but there seems to be a wide divergence of opinion on it.
I think we might find that age related, kids and their parents OK, older generation not so keen. Without being presumptuous in any way I don’t think you will like it, but, of course, you must visit when you can. I have been twice and will probably go again but it is a shadow of how I remember it. Of course it is a war museum and had to also cover the period since the Second World War as well. They were showing some interesting videos but as been pointed out in the appropriate thread the monitors face across narrow thoroughfares and are therefore difficult to watch.
Me thinks the drifting police will be along soon.:D:D
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