Thanks Chris.
The site I mentioned below,
https://weaponsandwarfare.com/category/spain/page/7/
does have a comprehensive alphabetical list of all the planes used by the Spanish Air Force but the whole article is on one page and you have to scroll a very, very, very long way down. I have checked all the planes I didn’t recognise, which was most of them, and none fit.
The leg knuckles on the undercarriage (protrusion in front at wing joint) and the absence of any strutting together with the wing dihedral seem to be the defining feature and appears to rule out the Northrops and Lockheeds.
I am not utterly convinced that what appears to be the tailplane is actually the tailplan. If you look at what appears to be the tailplane and consider it to be a background feature then the port flap become more apparent, well to me anyway, and the tailplane is hidden by the flap. To me the left bottom edge of the tailplane is difficult to explain even if it is an elevator in the down position.
This appears to be a civil plane rather than military.
If this plane is “huge” as others have said is the “white” on the dark flash lettering or windows?
To the left and over the starboard wing can be seen what appears to be a strung up net which looks very like an aircraft crash arrestor? And if it isn’t that what is it?
Does anyone know what this is? Is this the Beta?
Taken from this image
on this site
It worked I got a notification for this!;)
When you think about it it’s rule one, reboot.:D
OK aa I have a work around which has worked so far, problem is you wont get this but hey.
Go to your profile and go to edit your password and email address. Change your email address and save and bingo notifications has started working. I have a “spare” email address which forwards to my standard address. I did not try just re-entering the same email address and saving, that may work. I now intend to change my email address back to the original and save and feel that will be OK now.
Well you are probably right, but then he who hesitates…….
Personally I do not see the “huge” thing at all using prop blade as a rough measuring stick. And as I said I do not think that what looks like the tail plane is the tailplane, but that’s just me. Hopefully wait and see.
I really hesitate to suggest this in such illustrious company but how about a Fokker D XXI?
Fokker DXXI (1)
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Apparently Spain did have some.
The shrouding looks very close, the cockpit is well back with a flat front screen. There is a tail wheel as apposed to a skid. I do not think you can see a tailplane (what initially is taken as a tailplane would be very large and I think it is something in the background) in the OP pictures which means it is mounted high up which fits the XXI.
The pitot tubes are in different positions.
Chance Light and Airfield Beacons also presumably by Chance. The Chance Lights mounted on trailer, as at East Kirkby, or on the back of a truck and mobile to illuminate runways and work in the field after dark.
IWM D15135 BRITISH EQUIPMENT AT AN AMERICAN AIRFIELD: ANGLO-AMERICAN CO-OPERATION IN WARTIME BRITAIN, 1943
IWM C5658 ROYAL AIR FORCE: 2ND TACTICAL AIR FORCE, 1943-1945.
An interesting picture of a Chance light and an airfield beacon. I understood that airfield beacons could be different colours and flashed a morse coded letter(s) which would be the pundit code for military airfields, hence the name Pundit Beacon.
IWM CH6695 ROYAL AIR FORCE BOMBER COMMAND, 1942-1945.
Being used as a work light
IWM CH7921ROYAL AIR FORCE FLYING TRAINING COMMAND, 1940-1945.
Photographic night shoots are nothing new
[url=https://flic.kr/p/CJLEpW%5DIWM CH7211
The Hatfield beacon has been fully restored and is now displayed outside in a public area!
I am not saying you do not care, but despite my best investigations I cannot see why my notifications just suddenly stopped and some help would be much appreciated. Maybe find out if there are more people having the same problem on a more visited thread or are there just 2 of us.
Remember that the next time there is a Shoreham-like disaster.
Do you mean “the first time in living memory that people on the ground outside the airfield have been killed by an “old” aeroplane giving a display”? (This particular type of old plane is still in regular “military” use both here and in the USA where both operators have reasonably large fleets). Also Shoreham was an accident, mass shootings are not. Display aeroplanes are flown by experts, and are strictly controlled, gun ownership in many countries is not. Also, the figures speak for themselves so you do not have to be a gun owner or an expert to make comment. Regardless of the fact that criminals and forensic mentally challenged people may well always be able to get hold of weapons the fact remains that where their are restrictive gun laws, death caused by guns is very significantly less. Personally I would have said “capitalism” is a closer fit than “democracy” and one wonders what the result of a referendum would be. No system is perfect but surely this should not be an excuse to do nothing. I am not so sure that it is so easy to obtain a gun in the UK unless you move in the right, wrong, sort of circles as we see disgruntled factions taking to other methods to commit random killings. And here, in the UK, we take action, we took action over the purchase of knives and we are about to take action over the purchase of acid. Imperfect it may be, but at least we try.
I am one of those who no longer gets subscribed updates so have only just seen you last post today, John.
Pleased to hear that he is at least about and hope, perhaps, one day he will return here.
Thanks for the info.
I saw this and thought of… well actually, the thread “Only in America” but as I am one who no longer gets emails of subscribed posts I did not know it had, well, been…….
Anyway, applies here as well
There were a number of cancellations today due to cross winds, Lysander, Glad, Nimrod and Fury although the Glad made it for the finale. All the Hurricanes went out to take off on 04 but Z7015 dropped out before take off with a problem.
I asked at the Flying Legends bench in the hanger but they were not saying anything. Another visitor then spoke up and said he had seen them being repaired in the hangar.
Later I overheard two traders saying it was a bird strike.
I don’t know but I find it strange that only one declared an emergency and the other P51 continued on a full right circuit to land on 24 soft.
Obviously things look very different from different angles and when you gather evidence from witnesses you sometimes wonder if they are describing the same event.
Local press are reporting it as a collision and showing a picture of the previous P51 in a field,
They are saying Miss Helen landed on 06 grass which the picture clearly shows and the damage. That would explain why we didn’t see it landing 24 but not how several of us didn’t see it pass right under our nose!