10.8 metre is not small if it is going to be used on small to medium size carriers.
i havent seen more than 10 to 15 Rafales on flight deck. and without many aircraft on flight deck of carrier. it will decrease sortie rates.

You’re right, that’s because French Fleet Air Arm doesn’t have enough Rafale fighters, for the moment…

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I give up… I write a long post to explain the difference between commissioning and “entry in active service”, and the next post continues to confuse the two!

Your explanation is the right one, I apologize to use the wrong term. In French, we don’t use the term “commission”, but “essais à la mer” or “sea trials”, then “entrée en service” when the ship is fitted with all sensors and weapons, and is OK to be used by the French Navy. For the moment, the Dixmude has no combat system. She has to sail to Toulon Naval Base to be fitted with.

About Nae Sao Paulo, the problem is that only 2 of 23 AF1 (A4K) Skyhawk seem to be able to fly. Most of Navy pilots didn’t have any carrier training for years, so it’s difficult to consider that this ship is actually serviceable. But you’re right, there is a plan to modernize the Skyhawks and some stoofs have been purchased and modernized for AEW and COD duties.

regards

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French Aircraft Carrier name is “Charles de Gaulle”.
French BPC Dixmude is due to commission in 2012.
MB NAe Sao Paulo’s deck didn’t see any aircraft since 2005.
Thai Navy has no more AV8S jet fighters for years, so Chakri Naruebet is just an helicopter carrier.

Regards

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1 Rafale lost during training,

2 Rafale lost during a heavy configuration trial flight,

1 Rafale lost during a war mission…

Last Rafale was part of 10 aircraft sent to war while the total fleet was only of less than 20 machines… It’s a huge effort for the Marine risking his brand new fighters with minimal logistics available.

Whatever is said, Rafale , from the begining, is used intensively. They take part to many exercizes abroad, they go to war, all of this since 2002, and since 2007 with bombs to support troops in Afghanistan, no matter how large is the fleet.

First rafale lost is an AdA aircraft (French Air force-Armée de l’Air)
The pair of rafale lost (collision) and the last are Aéronavale’s aircrafts (French Fleet Air Arm)

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50 mph why? What to do with such speed? New warships are raceships?
French preww2 destroyers did 45 knots… Back to the future or new way of seawar, or new US exentricity after the zumwalt new monitor class?

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If german gvt wants to help Israel, why not? But they can buy schools, hospitals, or civil technologies… Why weapons?

As I Know, german navy wanted to have a fourth T 124, cancelled, to have more T130, problems of budjet, and are trying to afford for years one or more lpd/lhd : no money! So surprising deal : ok to buy warships for a foreign contry, not for it’s own navy…

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What about the final cost of Prince of Wales lph?

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is a F4 landing weight lower than 15t?

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