PLA,

I’m curious how you can justify, much less quantify, any of the figures in your table. Especially so those of serviceability percentages (what does that even imply?) and the totally arbitrary ‘combat effectiveness’…

An analysis based on numbers pulled out of thin air, regardless of whatever ‘cues’ may have been received is a complete joke.

I don’t mean to be mean, but why spend so much time and effort on something so fundamentally flawed?

^ Oh come off this pseudo sophistry.

I find it extremely difficult to swallow the argument that they couldn’t find at least one Muslim ruler or leader in the subcontinent who was important to Islam’s advent there that they could name their weapons after. I find it even more incredulous that there isn’t any other Islamic theme or motif (if they chose to go down the religious jehad naming theme) that they could use to christen their missiles, except for those who are universially accepted as Islamist madmen.

That Pakistan chose to name its missiles and weapons nearly all after Islamic invaders of India is indicitive enough of a vulgar and extremeist (and, some may rightfully make the argument, expantionist) mindset, the fact that they named them after rulers renound as extremely brutal simply takes the cake.

Let’s take one example: India tested an SRBM by name of Prithvi (meaning “Earth”). This goes along the theme of elemental names of missiles (ex: Akash meaning “Sky”, Agni meaning “Fire”, Astra meaning “Eather”, and Surya meaning “Sun”.)

So Pakistan, in its decidedly own boorish way named their SRBM as Ghauri, after the Afghan invader Mohammed Ghauri.

Ghauri was in constant battle with the Hindu king of Delhi, Prithvi Raj Chauhan. Prithvi Raj Chauhan defeated Muhammad Ghauri 16 times in battle, captured him, and let Ghauri go back each time, in deference to the concept of honor. But on the 17th time, Ghauri defeated Chauhan and caught him. Ghauri beheaded him on the spot. :rolleyes:

The reason why Ghauri and his military general Malik Kafur invaded India 17 times and plundered each time the assets of Indians — Hindus and Muslims alike, but especially the Hindus. It is during these 17 raids by the Ghauri and Malik Kafur that India has lost most of their northern and western temples and religious places, especially the Indian Buddhist, who were all but exterminated in the plundering, along with looting Indian wealth and women — ironically, mostly the progentors of modern day Pakistanis. On top of that, it is recorded by the historians that they built mosques in the place of temples to remark their victory.

Similarly, all kingly-named Pakistani weapons systems are named after historical figures with a special kind of brutality, or who committed such acts of brutality and dishonor that Indian civilization today is still scarred by it.

Perhaps a more appropros example would be China developing two new Japan-specific nuclear warheads, and calling them “Little Boy” and “Fat Man”

You can give whatever bogus excuse you wish in playing the part of apologist, but the intentions and reasons for the Pakistani naming system is quite clear. You’re not fooling anyone.

But really, the callousness and immaturity of it all isn’t surprising when you take into account that this is the country that erected paper mache mockups of its nuclear missiles in every other roundabout in their major cities. 😐

Sorry for going off topic, but I was abbeted into this post by the absurdity in the previous. This will be my last post on this subject.

-Raj

Mirages and Flankers really look nice together! Nice pics

Sea, India is flexing it muscle because of its economic strength.. it will steeply grow in the coming years..with the growing economy the concern for security to protect the growth. Indian goverment is doing its best to reduce poverty..As in US terms.. economically strong = military might.. :dev2:

Why is India in Dubya’s list?

Its military spending, even as a percentage of GDP at 2.5%, is among the lowest of the major powers in the world. It’s far, far lower than China, Pakistan, both of whom have waged wars of aggression against India, and other S. Asian nations like Lanka, Nepal and Bangladesh.

It’s funny that Indians on this forum, on one hand always like to maintain that pakistan army, airforce, navy etc. are nothing but pushovers compared to India and then at the same time claim that this smaller weaker country [i]forces[/i] them to arm themselves. :rolleyes: :confused:

What, did you sleep during basic geopolitics 101, or are simply that daft?

Whereas poverty in India is much more than in pakistan and there defence budget much higher than pakistan also.

This is my last post on the subject because I hate off topic pissing contests, but are you familiar with the term “cognitive dissonance”?

Do you know how absurd you sound chanting such obviously ignorant statements?

BUT whatever.
Can we get back to the topic now?

Wow! Great article

Lots of technical info I haven’t seen before elsewhere.

IAF may not have Micas, but surely they can simulate the missiles for the purpose of the exercise? It is basically a software simulation iirc, so I think that may be a valid point. Also a valid point is that the range/missile restrictions weren’t limited to just the Americans, but also to the Indians, so that shouldn’t be a major factor of determining performance.

Anyway, I just hope in reporting the next ex the media will be a lot more mature than they have been with this one.

I don’t think the concept of Chinese bases in Vietnam will ever materialize 😉

Those two nations hate each other as much as India and Pak