As well as F-15A and F-111 for the USAF… Maybe some P-51 too? (better, the F-82, at least there is a radar)
When was this “article” typed?
The article was written in April, 2001
The Indian defence industry began in the 1940s, a decade ahead of Israel’s. Some 50 years later, tiny Israel is a military technology superpower, but India continues to struggle.
What an odd statement
The Israeli military industry, unlike India, can draw directly on American military industry, technology and research, while playing with a tremendous largesse of American dollars.
Give India or any country with even a semi-decent pool of scientists the same and you’d see such ‘superpowerdom’ overnight
Use of advanced composites may allow it to be lighter, but stronger and thus able to carry a greater payload then something made of traditional materials
Yes, that is a possibility.
But what, exactly, in the article are you asserting is bias, and as an extention of this, what in the article can be construed as incorrect information, lies, or exaggerations?
A generalization of the BR forum members a valid arguement against the article, in facts presented or gist, does not make.
Respectfully,
Raj
LCA: Impact on Indian Defense
PLA/PAF,
I’m posting this article here, as the spam you had posted has rightfully been deleted.
Though this article is dated, even older than the ‘article’ you posted, this writeup not only effectively rebutts it on its own, but should go quite a ways to explain the impact the LCA has had on the Indian Areospace industry… that is, of course, if you deign to read it.
Perhaps some of our resident LCA gurus can explain better what’s changed since this article has been written, and the successes the LCA program and spinoffs have had.
Sukumar R. Iyer
In the development of air power, one has to look ahead and not backward and figure out what is going to happen, not too much what has happened.
-Brig. General William ‘Billy’ Mitchell, USAS, the father of modern air power
India’s Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) flew for the first time on January 4th, 2001, almost a full forty years since the last major Indian designed fighter took to the skies. The occasion marked the culmination of the scientific dreams of many in India. That day also perhaps marks the rebirth of the Indian aerospace industry and will have a significant impact on Indian defense for many years to come. The future of India’s aerospace abilities and confidence in hi-tech defense research and manufacturing rests on the success of the LCA program.
Rebirth of the Indian Aerospace industry
We would be remiss to analyze the role of the LCA without looking at the past attempts, failures and shortcomings of the Indian aerospace industry.The HF-24 Marut was India’s first and last foray in the last century into developing an indigenous fighter aircraft [8]. Designed by the legendary Kurt Tank, (father of the Focke-Wulf 190 in WWII), the Marut was perhaps a little early for its time considering the immaturity of Indian industry in those years. The refusal of the British to provide an engine capable of powering an aircraft its size, and the Indian inability to develop one doomed the Marut from the start. A similar fate met the Egyptian Helwan also designed by Kurt Tank’s team.
Since then, Indian aerospace has languished without direction and the lack of political will, combined with the stupor governing the Indian public sector that has a stranglehold on defense related industries. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), the lone Indian aircraft company has long satisfied itself with assembling a line of aircraft under license and recently supplying parts to overseas aircraft manufacturers. With a work force of more than 40,000 employees comparable in size to aerospace giants in the west, this public sector behemoth symbolized the inertia in the Indian aerospace and defense industries. The only bright spots in this otherwise bleak picture were the development of the Ajeet, Kiran and a line of piston-engined trainers.
The dying spark of the Marut program was an attempt to design and build a Deep Penetration Strike Aircraft (DPSA) the HF-73, a twin engined derivative of the Marut. The demise of the HF-73 later culminated in the purchase of the Jaguar to fill this role. While a series of imports and license assembly programs followed, hopes were kept alive by the launch of the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) in 1984 with the sole purpose of developing the LCA.
The first flight of the LCA on January 4th, 2001 along with the fledgling Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) and the Saras programs marks a rebirth of the nascent Indian aerospace industry, which had been all but written off. Combined with successes in the Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP), the nuclear program going overt and a new awakening in strategic thinking, the LCA marks the beginning of a new era in Indian defense Research & Development (R & D) and manufacturing. Lets consider some of the significant broader accomplishments in the development of the LCA:
1. Program Management: Planning and coordination between hundreds of defense laboratories, ministries, universities, public sector companies, private firms and overseas collaborators. This becomes more significant considering the typical bureaucratic hurdles, inertia, infighting, turf battles and scientific egos that are typical of the Indian research establishment.
2. Systems Integration: Long a weakness in the Indian scientific psyche, the ability to plan and integrate the many complex systems and technologies that make up a modern fighter. ADA has developed virtual reality based software to help in this aspect. This state-of-the-art software (the author can attest to this, having seen a demonstration) is now in demand with western aerospace companies.
3. Development of innovative Technologies: The program has tried to buy, learn and incorporate many of the complex technologies from overseas collaborators integrating then with an array of indigenous efforts. Sanctions and the unwillingness to share on the part of the USA and UK lead to the indigenous development of many of the hi-tech capabilities needed for a modern fighter. A non-exhaustive list of these technologies includes – avionics, systems integration, gas turbine engines, flight control software (fly-by-wire), actuators, sensors, composites technologies, virtual reality software, CAD/CAM (Computer Aided Design/Manufacturing) software, Computational Fluid Dynamics and communications [1]. Many of these technologies are strategically important from a national security perspective and form the bedrock of the reborn Indian aerospace industry.
Development of aerospace technology and industry mark the maturation of a growing economy with the capability to build or absorb these technologies. Combined with the significant strides made in the Indian space effort, the LCA will be a major confidence builder for bolder strides in defense R & D. The next sections analyze the larger impact and role of the LCA in Indian defense.
Birth of the Indian Aerospace Infrastructure & Technology Independence
An examination of the aerospace industry in a well-developed economy shows that developing and building aircraft requires a vast infrastructure of ancillary manufacturing industries and a few systems integrators. Today’s aircraft and aerospace systems (like the space shuttle) are extremely complex systems requiring an array of companies and industries focused on the different component technologies that integrate into such a system. This is one reason for aerospace industry to remain confined to a few developed economies. In Europe, the need to master this array of complex technologies and the high costs involved has lead to companies from different countries pooling their resources in pan-European efforts like the European Fighter Aircraft (EFA).
The competitive demands of today’s global economy also dictate sourcing components and technologies from other countries where those technologies are mature and available economically. Those that complain about components imported for use in the LCA should note that the Swedish JAS 39 Gripen, which is the LCA’s closest competitor sources 40% of its components from non-Swedish sources starting with its US made engine [5]. ADA has wisely imported technologies (already developed) where available from overseas, and indigenously researched those not available or offered. It would also be logical to introduce import substitution and license manufacture of some of these technologies later in the production phase of the program.
The development of just the LCA prototypes has lead to the birth of a number of aerospace ancillaries and partners spanning
1. Private sector companies [2].
2. Public sector giants
3. Research departments in IITs, IISC and major universities
4. DRDO and defense research laboratories
The contribution of these companies and organizations has extended from nuts & bolts to more complex systems such as engines, materials, landing gear, airframe parts, electricals and electronics. These four sectors constitute the primary aerospace infrastructure needed to support systems integrators such as HAL, which has built up considerable experience in integrating aircraft for the last forty odd years. With the development of the production LCAs these four sectors would grow exponentially laying the foundation to manufacture the next generations of fighters, helicopters, transport aircraft and trainers the country needs.
Since independence, the country has spent billions of dollars to build a capable air force to defend its skies and the airliners flying people in and out of the country. These billions, ill affordable for a country with India’s needs have ended up in British, French and Russian coffers and helped build better homes and lives for people in those countries. With the birth of the Indian aerospace industry, an ever-increasing percentage of those billions would go to Indian companies and bellies, a more attractive proposition. Media reports have indicated the government’s intention to go for an initial production run of ~200 LCAs. At the often quoted price of $26 million per unit [9,10], just the buy of these aircraft is $626 million redirected into the Indian economy rather than overseas. Combined with expenditures on maintenance and spares this figure could well be upwards of $2 billion in funds entering the Indian economy rather than leaving it.
The development of this infrastructure and technologies in the country also builds “swadeshi” self reliance and more importantly is sanctions proof. In today’s growing global economy, India must integrate with the rest of the world but can ill afford not to have strengths and self-reliance in critical areas such as aerospace.
The LCA’s Mission Profile & Integration into the IAF
There has been much debate about the intended role of the LCA, its weapons fit and capabilities fit into the IAF arsenal. A major portion of the IAF fleet comprises the MiG-21 procured in large numbers from the 1960s through the 1980s. Having done a stellar job in multiple roles – interceptor, interdictor, close air support – the ageing fleet is increasingly obsolete as indicated by the frequent crashes reported in the media.
The LCA is intended to replace the MiG-21 and fill the role of a multi-role mainstay aircraft. This means that the LCA must fill the evolved role (in today’s battle environment) which was then filled by the MiG-21. Every modern air force has a mix of aircraft intended to fill different roles, the sum of which makes for a deadly and efficient air force.
The LCA was designed to be [3]:
1. light, maneuverable and agile
2. carry a decent weapons load (4000 kg)
3. have an extendable range with aerial refueling
4. include a sensor suite and weapons mix (precision guided and dumb) for an adequate air-ground role
5. combine maneuverability with BVR missiles for the air-air role
In other words, the LCA is not designed to be a state-of-the-art interceptor or the last word in strike technology. The IAF has other aircraft for those specialized roles. The LCA is designed to be the utility infielder, available in adequate quantity, playing with the other numerically fewer specialized aircraft in the IAF’s combat team. Table-1 analyzes the role profile of the LCA and other aircraft in the IAF arsenal along with comparable aircraft.

* MCA – Medium Combat Aircraft (speculative design on the drawing board
+JSF – Joint Strike Fighter (USAF/USN/USMC/RAF joint multi-mission stealth fighter)
Table-2 analyzes the role of the LCA in a strike package intended for say a medium range, well-defended target in Pakistan such as Sargodha AFB. The typical LCA role for such a mission would be the primary iron hauler along with support missions such as advance reconnaissance, SEAD and EW support.

As this article is written, the LCA still needs to complete integration of sensor suites and weapon systems. The IAF already possesses a vast arsenal of modern sensors and weapons with which it has much experience. These weapons have also been integrated with older systems such as the MiG-21. This should help hasten the integration of some of those systems into the LCA. Apart from these existing systems, newer weapons like the Astra AAM and new precision-guided weapons are reported under development. Table-3 shows typical roles envisaged for the LCA along with possible weapons/payloads mixes.

The first of many
A successful LCA could be the harbinger of better things to come down an Indian aerospace industry pipeline. Nothing succeeds like success and the LCA could prove the industry’s ability to manage a complex technological project and bring it to fruition. ADA has published ambitious plans for many other follow-on types of aircraft, as has HAL. What has been most encouraging is also the entry of public and private sector firms such as Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd. (BHEL) and Taneja Aerospace and Aviation Ltd. (TAAL) into the picture with their Swati and Viator lines of aircraft. Table-4 shows a list of possible follow-ons and new aircraft in the pipeline that would be inspired by an LCA success story.

The technologies developed and lessons learnt in the LCA program would immensely benefit these other efforts. The ancillary and R & D infrastructure developed from the LCA program could be reused in these other programs leading to further development of the aerospace industry in India. These facts further underscore the LCA being the foundation stone of the modern Indian aerospace industry.
Cost-Benefit Analysis of the LCA
The previous sections have brought out the vast benefits that would accrue to the nascent Indian aerospace industry from a successful LCA program. These benefits more than justify any cost of development, however high it may be. It would be hard (and in the author’s opinion – futile) to even try to attach monetary value to these benefits, since it is a question of survival for Indian aerospace and hi-tech defense development. There are those that have carped about the costs incurred in the development of the LCA. It would be instructional to compare the projected `per-unit’ costs of the LCA with those of other similar platforms currently available on the international market. Table-5 shows a comparison of the LCA costs with the Swedish JAS-39 Gripen which is the closest competitor to the LCA. Figures for the F-22 program are attached to contrast these costs.

Many media reports have estimated that the LCA’s per unit acquisition cost at $26 Million for a production run of 200+ aircraft [9,10,11]. Given the IAF’s tactical situation and the threat perception, the ordered numbers could increase, further reducing the unit cost. Another factor often not discussed by the media is that the true cost of acquiring aircraft is not in its upfront price. The real hit in any such program is the cost of spares, training and maintenance, which is where most western aerospace companies make their profit. As was pointed out earlier, the true cost of a ~200 unit run of the LCA could be ~$2 billion (typically 2-3 times base acquisition cost).
As can be seen from Table-5, the LCA program even with the delays and cost overruns is economically still competitive. With the potential to redirect as much as $2 billion in aircraft spending back into the Indian economy, it offers a splendid return on investment for the country apart from the vast benefits described previously such as the rebirth of the Indian aerospace industry and creating the aerospace ancillary infrastructure.
Conclusions
The LCA is currently undergoing a regimen of test flights. Much has to happen before the LCA enters squadron service. Some of the major steps include integration of the Kaveri engine, avionics integration and weapon systems integration. By that time, surely there would be changes to threat perceptions and the needs of the IAF. Detractors of the LCA would do well to keep in mind that such changes and evolutions are part of every aircraft program, addressed through retrogressive upgrades, even as future production versions are developed.
The main crux of this article has been that the LCA is more than just an aircraft as far as Indian defense and R & D is concerned. Too much rides on the LCA’s delta wings – the future of Indian aerospace, the mantra of self reliance and the confidence of a new defense establishment and strategic thought process. After having come so far, it would be a travesty to not carry on the LCA saga.
Dr. S. R. Valluri, the former head of ADA and one of the fathers of the LCA recently commented in an article [7] – “We are a long way away from realizing the full potential of the LCA. Nevertheless, the programme must go on to enable our aircraft and engine designers to learn what it means to build advance technology fighter aircraft and engines.”
Talk about scraping the dirt off the sludge off of the bottom of a whole pile of dirty barrels.
The ‘points’ made by that over-year-old ‘article’ has been demolished a hundred times over, yet the naysayers next door keep repeating the same mantras.
If you want a reash, please witness the article and its author get ripped to shreads by real experts in the feedback section of the column:
http://www.sulekha.com/expressions/articlecomments.asp?pg=4&cid=306667
Note: messages displayed in reverse order. The oldest message is at the bottom of the above pag and newest on top. Click “Previous Set of Comments” at the bottom of the above page to access newer page of comments.
Such as?
He says he can host such a webspace for free
But he doesn’t have time himself to maintain the page, except maybe to help out. So who’s gonna pony up for buying the domain 😀
Anyway, anyone interested in the project, PM me, and I will get you in contact with my friend
Airpower,
Grow up. K?
There’s other ways to negatively reflect upon your country, as it seems you are so inclined. 😡
Just fyi, I posted IAF newly released pics of COPE India in the following thread
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=21810&page=4&pp=30 😀
pics 7-12
pics 1-6
Found from Chinese Defense Forum:
The IAF has released an article on COPE India, along with a slew of hi-res photos. The article is reproduced below, and 12 of the photos in the following posts.
Found on IAF site via BR.
INDO – US EXERCISE COPE INDIA –04
Exercise Cope India 04 was an Air Force level exercise between the USAF and the Indian Air Force (IAF) and marked a beginning of a new chapter in Indo-US bilateral relations. This was the first opportunity since 1963 for USAF fighters to operate from Indian soil. The exercise brought together leading fighter combat aircraft and aircrew and ground crew of both air forces. The USAF flew in F-15Cs, while the IAF was represented by Mirage 2000, Su-30K, MiG-27s and MiG-21 (upgraded). The meeting ground provided a strong foundation and deep understanding towards developing a new relationship between the IAF and USAF for the future.
Not only was the exercise a gathering of hi-tech, state of the art aircraft and systems of both air forces, but also proved to be an excellent meeting ground for the personnel of the two air forces to understand each other. Despite such a vast difference in culture and traditions, there was complete synergy and understanding of minds, and of concepts in the air and on the ground. The mutual respect and bonhomie that developed between members of the two sides have cemented a firm foundation for moving ahead towards higher bilateralism.
Planning for the exercise commenced during the IPC (Initial Planning Conference) at the Air HQ at New Delhi in the last week of Sep 2003. Various modalities for the smooth conduct of the exercise were chalked out during the IPC. Col Greg Neubeck, a senior F-15 pilot with flying experience of over 3000 hrs, led the USAF delegation. Sgt Mike Boden in-charge of administration helped to work out modalities concerning security and admin aspects. Once the IPC was conducted, a broad outline for planning was set into motion.
All aspects relating to operations, maintenance and administration were finalised and put in place during the discussions which took place subsequently between the two teams. Exchange visits by the participants of the two air forces took place. A team of Indian pilots, fighter controllers, ATCOs and AFSOs visited the US Air Force Base in Alaska. Likewise, a USAF team visited India to familiarise and acquaint themselves with the procedures followed by IAF AF Stn Gwalior, the host IAF airbase began preparations for the exercise in true earnest, almost three months prior to the Exercise. The Chief of Air Staff made a visit during the first week of February 2004, to check the arrangements for the Exercise.
The operating complex of 7 Sqn “THE BATTLE AXES”, which was the host Sqn, was further built up to accommodate USAF personnel and reflected itself as a model Indian Air Force Sqn.
By the first week of Feb 04, Gwalior Air Force Base was all geared up for the exercise. The first transport support aircraft of USAF, a C-5 Galaxy, arrived in the evening hours of 12th Feb 04.
This was followed by a few more trips and the entire ground support facilities were in place by 14 Feb 04. The first two F-15 fighters, from the 19th Fighter Sqn “GAMECOCKS”, arrived at Gwalior on 14 Feb. The next four F-15 were delayed due to technical reasons and arrived in the afternoon of 19 Feb 04.
The exercise began on 16 Feb, with the USAF pilots being familiarized with the airfield and local procedures and also of the diversionary airfields. USAF pilots got a chance to see the Taj Mahal at Agra and the mighty Himalayas from the air and they were visibly impressed by both.
Flying activity picked up pace in the next few days and missions went through as planned. The Americans soon became familiar with the famous Indian culture, hospitality and especially spicy Indian food, which was well appreciated. The growing friendship between the two teams was clearly visible by the fact that the airmen of both air forces were soon playing volleyball and football matches together during their spare time. The Americans showed a lot of interest in learning cricket and likewise the Indians in learning baseball!!
Flying activity continued at a brisk pace during the second week with large package missions being flown, which required lengthy briefing and even more exhaustive debriefs. Many thought provoking ideas and lessons emerged from these missions.
Besides flying activity, there was considerable social interaction during the fortnight. Welcome Cocktails at both Officers Mess and SNCOs Mess was organised on 16th Feb, so as to break the ice. This was followed by a “Roll – Call” on Friday evening, the 20th of Feb. This “Roll -Call” requires a special mention, as this was an interaction which set the grounds for strong bonds of friendship between members of both teams.
Interaction with the media was planned on the 25th Feb. The press were impressed on seeing the launch and recovery of a large number of combat aircraft participating in the exercises. A static display of all participating aircraft was planned during the day. Commanding Officers’ of all the units and a few participants exchanged their views with the media.
On 26th Feb, various presentations and lectures on a wide variety of aviation-related topics took place. The team exchanged their past experiences on various operational, admin and maintenance aspects of both air forces.
A farewell dinner was organised on the evening of 26 February, with the Americans getting a short glimpse of Indian tradition and culture during a brief cultural programme put up by a local group from Gwalior city. Mementos and pleasantries were exchanged during the dinner.
The USAF fighters ferried back on 27th morning at 1100 hrs. The transport support followed soon after and the IAF bid farewell to all USAF personnel.
The exercise provided a stepping-stone to a new beginning in Indo-US military and bi-lateral ties. It provided a firm foundation for enhancing mutual operational understanding, and set the basis for future co-operation between the two air forces.
Although this was the first meeting ground between the two air forces in a truly operational air combat environment, all initial hesitations vanished from Day One. The relationships which developed were indeed, excellent. A healthy professional respect was noticed on both sides in the air and on the ground.
When questioned on the capabilities of IAF pilots, Col Greg Newbech, USAF Team Leader made the following remarks: –
– What we’ve seen in the last two weeks is, the IAF can stand toe-to-toe with best AF in the world.– I pity the pilot who has to face the IAF and chances the day to underestimate him; because he won’t be going home.
– Indian hospitality from everyone has been truly overwhelming.
– The greatest compliment we heard from an IAF pilot – You American pilots are just like us, simply down to earth people.
– We depart India with great respect for the Indian Air Force. Your pilots, maint and support crew are exceptional professionals.
The Indian Air Force now looks forward to meeting the USAF in Alaska during Ex Cope Thunder-04
Yes, I think a website on the LCA that provides a detailed FAQ, all sourced and referenced, would be an invaluable resource to use against all the naysayers.
I would like to help in any way, but I am an amateur, and by no means whatsoever an expert on the subject. However, my roomate is into this kind of stuff. I just talked to him and he says he can help with hosting such a website for free, and can do some graphics design for it.
Please email me at rajkhalsa(at)yahoo(.)com and I’ll get you in contact with him. Or wait a while and I’ll get his permission to post his email address here.