What I would like to know is how they would go about making this lawsuit take place. How are international court cases handled? Who would be the judge and jury in this case, since we’re dealing with different nations here? Off topic, but…
Personally, it sounds like to me that the Russian gov’t are just butt-hurt over losing a major export customer, but what do I know? 😮
Is this DEMO model intended only for export?
I wonder if the Swedish air force ever intends to upgrade their own Gripens do this new standard.
Now that it has ASEA and a bigger payload, I can easily see this new gripen to be a lower-cost competitor to the F-35 or even the Rafale; and the last thing the Rafale needs right now is even more competition. 🙁
If I recall, for the last thirty years or so there were people who lobbied for the removal of the A-10 from the US forces time and time again, only to be proved wrong by the sheer effectiveness of the jet in actual combat.
Personally, I think there’s still some life in the mud-moving CAS role yet. Apparently the USAF realizes this, and doesn’t plan to retire the A-10 until 2030 or so, If I recall. And the RuAF is going to continue to keep the Su-25 in service with no replacement. From the looks of it, the USAF will use the F-35 and A-10 in complementary roles for a long time.
The A-10 is very good for what we’re doing right now in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think I remember reading a report somewhere wherein a soldier described just how the A-10 continues to be unrivaled in it’s role, if only for it’s psychological factor on the enemy, a.k.a. scaring seven shades of yellow rubbery [censored] out of them. :diablo:
So what was the M88-3 upgrade for again? Was it a thrust uprating or something else?
^^ Looks like its from the Saturn drawing. That rear view with its wide-spaced engines reminds me of the Tomcat; aww, its getting me all nostalgic…
At this point, we have not one but two images of the same or similar design from two potentially reliable sources (The Saturn image and now this video). I’m willing to bet at this point thats the real design, or something similar to it.
Seriously, I’ll put down an American ten dollar bill. :diablo:
EDIT: The weapons bay on that image looks to take up a lot of space; might be detrimental to the amount of fuel/systems it could hold. That being said I think It will be more along the lines of the “long weapons bay” (as I call it) should this design come to fruition, as opposed to being double-stacked like that.
Maybe that is why the 1.44 lost out as it had ressesed missiles instead of a bay?
I thought the 1.44 had an internal bay? :confused: :confused:
They might even go with a mix of an internal bay and recessed weaponry. I’m sure you can fit a few missile under the engine nacelles too. And I wonder if they ever intend to fit A2G munitions?
My gut feeling tells me that the Russian developers will really try to cram as much weaponry onto their jet’s as they can. You know, anything you can do to try and beat the Raptor; by compensating in this case. :diablo: :p
EDIT: The weapons schematic in that one link showing the possible arrangements doesn’t make sense to me. It wouldn’t be a good idea to stack missile one on top of the other; if one jams, the other missiles are stuck. At any rate, that one particular image is just speculation (well, they all are I guess), not to mention that it’s accompanying image shows a significantly different weapons bay arrangement which I should have posted before to avoid confusion; my bad.
I was emphasizing the size comparisons of the missiles.
The KS172 is the AWACS killer right ?
There was a schematic by paralay (I think) comparing the KS-172 to a model of the PAK FA very similar to this one. Let me see if I can find it again.
EDIT: Nuts, I deleted it. Well heres that one pic by paralay that shows the “long weapon bay” that could hold the KS-172. Link
And this link compares the KS-172 to other missiles. Link.
The other images are of possible stowage configurations which look kind of dubious to me, but the size comparison looks legit. It’s by Paralay btw.
Of course, all this depends on the sheer fact that this jet actually looks anything like that. For all we know, it could end up looking like this:

😀
EDIT, redux: Going by paralay’s schematics as a rough guide and using MS paint to resize everything to scale (Boredom, mostly 😛 ) , I say that it could hold two KS-172s in an internal bay like that.
The graphic looks too simplistic to show doors for internal weapons bays. But looking at the space in between the engine nacelles/pods, theres definitely enough space in there for at possible weapons bay long enough for the KS-172 as it has been rumored for a while now.
Of course we don’t know it’s exact size, but going by the size of the cockpit bubble going by Twisteds pic, it looks to be fairly large for a fighter.
Either that or the KS-172 is intended for external carriage…
EDIT: I though the 1.44 had an internal weapons bay?
Look at the tail; in particular, the tailsting.

It looks very similar to the (supposedly) official Saturn image. Same engine spacing too. Tailplane is somewhat different though; looks like the F-35’s tail. And the wings are at a different sweep.

So it might be the real PAK FA…
It could be either. Perhaps it’s neither and is just a generic mockup?
Speaking of which, material did they use for the nose of that F-111? Is it universal for the F-111 or is this a refit of sorts?
…It looks like that radome was made of bamboo. 😮
Thats technically what you would call a “Pyrrhic Victory” for the Pelican, right? :diablo:
^^ Translated in Google Translator Link
“”Today in Russia, all financial, intellectual, technical and production resources aviation industry program focused on creating heavy fighter 5 – the first generation. we can not spread them and must complete this program. Only then can consider establishing a light fighter aircraft based perspective acquired technologies “- A. Fedorov said.
According to him, until a decision on the establishment of a light fighter aircraft on the market outlook will be offered MiG-35 fighter aircraft (on the photo below right), which is already implemented some of the technology 5 – first generation, including airborne radar antenna with an active phased array.”
From what I read, they would want to develop a new lightweight fighter based off the transferred tech of the PAK FA, and possibly purchase the Mig-35 as a stopgap until that plane goes into service…?
Jeez!