Article from IDSA
Rafale Wins the MMRCA Competition
Also comments about the IAF Mirage 2000 experience
The IAF had always rooted for the Rafale and hence it should be happy and satisfied over a job well done considering the complexity and the time delays involved when a large number of decision makers are in the loop. One of the reasons the IAF favoured this fighter, besides intrinsic merit, is its experience with the Mirage-2000 fighters acquired in 1984-85. The Mirage was used first in the opening phase in Sri Lanka. Later the Mirage also proved its superior technology during the 1999 Kargil conflict when the small enemy targets at high altitude could not be successfully engaged with other strike fighters. The Mirage-2000 fleet has maintained a very high serviceability and utilisation rate and above all an unbelievably envious flight safety record. It is hoped that the Rafale would prove equally effective and economical in the long run. The main reason for the high serviceability of the Mirage-2000 fleet, I am told, is the near instant availability of spares and technical support from the French Dassault and the Thales team, and a state of the art avionics laboratory in Gwalior that is more sterile than the best hospital’s Intensive Care Unit (ICU). Considering that the quality of technical manpower is about the same across the IAF, it must be the Western technology, training and SOPs formulated by the French and the constantly close interaction between the user and the provider that are responsible for the success of the Mirage-2000 fleet. It is perhaps for this reason that India has chosen to upgrade the Mirage-2000 fleet for a whopping USD 1.8 billion. The IAF will surely do the same with the Rafale to obtain timely spares and maintenance support.
Yes grey is composite. After a rapid comparison..it doesnt seem to me the % has increased though..
http://navaltoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Russian-Aircraft-Corporation-to-Complete-Delivery-of-MiG-29K-KUB-for-Indian-Navy.jpg
http://en.rian.ru/images/5953/81/59538191.jpg
..btw are the USAF aggressors playing PAKFA now? 😉
Meanwhile back and forth between the Indian and UK media continues…
Wake up and smell the curry: India spurns Mother England’s peanuts
BA, interesting article by Air Cmde Khokar there , a bit funny too;)
Bluewings..
Well people have opinions..and you cannot do anything about it.Somebody even opined that Uk should give a dozen typhoons to Pakistan in return and so on..
So i think its better to ignore it.
Anyway, Katrina’s new breast implants look ugly to me..the natural contour was mucho better 😎
Nothing wrong in Mr Lake’s expression of “great potential” in Typhoon. IAF believed in that potential and that’s why EF managed to clear the evaluation criteria.
Nobody is saying the Typhoon is a bad aircraft , after all it passed IAF’s tactical flight evaluations.Particularly wrt air to air , I would keep it among top 5 aircraft operational today.But Jon Lake’s comments come across as condescending.
I would take Scorpion82’s opinions 365 days a year instead.
Anyhoo…coming back to topic..
Seems like the French are going to have their hands full till the deal is signed..
UK team raises Eurofighter losing bid with MoD
Less than a week after the EADS Eurofighter lost out on a bid to supply 126 fighter aircraft to the Indian Air Force, the United Kingdom has raised the matter with the Defence Ministry, insisting that the combat aircraft is better than the French Rafale that has emerged as the lowest bidder.
Sources said the matter was raised on Monday by UK’s Minister for International Security Strategy Gerald Howarth who met Minister of State for Defence M M Pallam Raju on Monday. The visiting delegation reportedly told the Defence Ministry that it was disappointed at the choice as the Eurofighter is a better aircraft.
Also there are reports of Bae considering a price cut…
So I guess it aint over until..and all that.
Then you’ve not read much of what he’s written about it. He praises it a lot. He tends to qualify his praise by referring to something that he thinks Typhoon does better, but he’s always said that Rafale is an excellent aircraft, & does some things better than Typhoon, & he praises the Rafale project to the skies, consistently comparing it favourably with the much worse run development & production of Typhoon.
Well I might not have read his articles extensively but what ever I have read seems enough for me.His opinions are like “well yeah your picture has the best picture frame , but my painting is the best “
And this comment by him somewhere else gave me such a rofl moment, it actually made my mood a lot lighter 😀
I feel sorry for the IAF, who are getting bread today instead of cake tomorrow
Well well Mr. Lake keep having your imaginary cake , I am sure it tastes delicious:p
How come he flew for the Iraqis for two years in the Iraq-Iran war? I know Iraq and India had some common Socialist/Communist/Stalinist allegiances, but never knew it actually went beyond covert WMD/missile assistance.
Check this http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1990s/Rajkumar-Iraq.html
and http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1990s/BewoorOsirak.html
It has nothing to do with any ideological allegiance.
Here is the profile of Air Cmde Khokar.very Impressive.
http://in.linkedin.com/pub/parvez-khokhar/2a/431/b3b
why?The commercial bids were not submitted at the time of tac evals so how could anyone know?
Note:
There are some reservations about the technical capabilities of the Rafale.
What could those be?
But Rafale was IAF’s “the choice” even though the typhoon was shortlisted.
They should paint the nose in a different colour.
Risky concept I would say..what do they do before landing dump the entire fuel into the sea or..?
Why India chose Rafale. Article by KP Nayar, a former Diplomatic editor of the Indian Express and The Economic Times. Mostly deals with the strategic aspects of why India might have chosen the Rafale.
Indian strategic community is very happy with the Rafale selection. B Raman had an article where he gives an insight into what went on before the hawk deal was signed..a competition where alphajet was also short listed.
Now that the decision of the Indian Air Force to go for Rafale has been announced, attempts will be made by others who failed in their bid to sell their aircraft to the IAF such as the European consortium producing the Typhoon to create confusion in the minds of the Indian political leadership and public opinion about the wisdom of the decision to choose the French aircraft.
Arms trade is a dirty business and often a ‘Psywar’ is waged with no holds barred to create suspicions in the minds of the buyer about rival competitors. We had seen this dirty ‘Psywar’ in the run-up to our decision to acquire a modern jet trainer aircraft. Both British and French arms dealers and their agents fought a bitter ‘Psywar’ against each other by planting stories which were meant to create doubts in the mind of PV Narasimha Rao, the then Prime Minister.
I was in service at that time and had personal knowledge of the way stories — which ultimately turned out to be false — were planted through politicians, bureaucrats and journalists to create doubts in the minds of the decision-makers about the integrity of those involved in the decision-making process itself. As a result, there was inordinate delay in signing the final contract for the purchase of advance jet trainers.
The British, particularly, played a very dirty game by planting suspicions in the minds of Rao through their contacts in the Indian intelligence community. It is quite likely that history may repeat itself and a similar ‘Psywar’ may again start. The only way of pre-empting and preventing it is by pressing ahead with the negotiations with Dassault Aviation and signing the final contract quickly. The longer the delay, the dirtier will be the ‘Psywar’.

Gorky is a disaster in the making.
Why do you say so?
Yeah +1 to TooCool and Swerve there.This is the first time I have read something from Jon Lake where he is actually complimentary to the Rafale.
At first i too did a double take on that one!:D