RayRIs there any article in the indian media regarding the IN wanting the JSF??
Actually as far as back in 2005 , the then Admiral Arun Prakash mentioned that the IN was interested in the F 35 and not the F 18.Last year iirc IN officials were briefed by LM regarding the F 35 and they are also one of the 5 companies also recieved the IN RFI for next gen carrier aircraft.
Imo , we will see the F 35 operating from IN carriers within the next 10 years.
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In other news..
Ajai Shukla has an article at last and he says …
The Gripen, for example, though highly rated in flying performance, was rejected because the IAF was not convinced that its airborne radar would be delivered in time.
Livefist says that the Mig 35 failed on 14 counts with an important one being regarding the engines.
RayRNavy wants F -35.
There is no relation between the MRCA and the navy.
RayR‘Life of the IAF pilot is more important than ties’
Life of the Indian Air Force pilot is paramount than any other issues, including strategic relations, in taking a decision regarding defence procurement,” says Naresh Chandra, former Indian ambassador to the United States.
Such decisions impact our 30 to 35 years of defence capabilities. You can’t go by strategic relationship only. What will you do with strong strategic relations if you lose the war with technically-inferior aircrafts,” Chandra asked.
Another important factor that must have prevailed upon the government’s thinking is that if India would have given such a huge contract to the Americans, India would have to start a kind of ‘new family’ in its armed forces, he added.
Chandra said Pakistan already had an advantage on the issue, as they have many-decades-old defence ties with the US.
He explained that Pakistan had the F series jet fighters since the last many decades. The Americans were offering the advanced version to India and Pakistan. Pakistan is much ahead of India in maintaining log sheets of it with rich experience of 30-plus years.
Chandra asked, “The type of relationship that exists between the US and Pakistan Air Force what is the guarantee that our system won’t be leaked to Pakistan’s system? If that happens, India’s advantage would vanish.
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While many posters have said it before , I cant believe that some of the members had actually thought that F 16 was an option for the IAF LOL
RayRCapability thing is done..now whoever provides the cheapest prices [ and offsets] is gonna win!
So what is the current estimate of Rafale and Typhoon unit costs?
RayRIndia activates airstrip near Chinese border
New Delhi: Wary of the build up of Chinese military infrastructure along its borders, India has silently activated an advanced landing ground (ALG) for its air force transport planes at Dharasu in Uttarakhand to aid in the swift movement of troops during conflicts.
The ALG, at an altitude of 2,950 feet in the Uttarkashi hills bordering China, was made operational in the second half of 2010 without much fanfare with the landing of an AN-32 medium lift transport aircraft of the Indian Air Force (IAF).
This information is contained in the latest issue of ‘The Blue Glory’, an air headquarters’ quarterly news bulletin.
RayRBoom , lol you could be right! 😉
Predictable result considering the news out since the last few months.IAF made the best two choices there.Kudos to MMS for not kowtowing to US pressure for once.
Feel sorry for Gripen though.Its a neat little fighter.Maybe the lack of a aesa did it in.
RayRWell well well…just caught the news…
Quadbike you can now eat your (american) heart out :diablo:
RayRIt seems that it was a design fault with the Russian cryo..
Pretty detailed http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=14646
RayR1. Percentages represent the increase in capability because of AWACS,
Please mention how you made such ridicluous calculations.
RayRI dont think there will be anymore of the Akulas other than may be the two.
But iirc there is a plan to make upto 9 SSNs in the country
RayRThings are turning nasty down there…
Somali pirates keep Indian hostages after ransom
By ABDI GULED and KATHARINE HOURELD, Associated Press Abdi Guled And Katharine Houreld, Associated Press – 44 mins ago
MOGADISHU, Somalia – In a move that could change the pirate-hostage equation, Somali pirates on Friday took in a multimillion dollar ransom, then released the ship and some of the crew but kept all the Indian crew members as hostages.
A pirate told The Associated Press the Indian crew members’ hostage ordeal is being prolonged in retaliation for the arrests of more than 100 Somali pirates by the Indian Navy.
“We decided to keep the Indian because India is holding our colleagues,” the pirate, Hassan Farah, said. “We released the other crew members who sailed away from our coast. We will keep these Indians until the Indians release our colleagues.”
Farah said the pirates in the stronghold of Haradhere have taken that collective decision. The Indian hostages are to be moved to land.
A multimillion dollar ransom was paid for the ship Asphalt Venture, whose ownership is located in Mumbai, India. Pirates are receiving an average of $5 million to release ships and crew, and a ransom in that ballpark was believed to have been paid on Friday.
It wasn’t immediately clear how many of the 15 crew members aboard the Asphalt Venture were Indian. The ship was hijacked in late September.
Friday’s pirate action marks a major departure from the standard pirate business model of release-for-ransom and could complicate international military efforts against the piracy trade.
Earlier this year pirates killed four American hostages while U.S. Navy warships were shadowing the hijacked yacht, the first time pirates had done that.
Overall, analysts say pirates are becoming increasingly aggressive, violent and hostile.
The Indian navy has seized around 120 pirates, mostly from Somalia, over the past few months. Last month the Indian navy captured 61 pirates when they attacked a naval ship. Indian warships have been escorting merchant ships as part of international anti-piracy surveillance in the Indian Ocean area since 2008.
Piracy has long plagued the shipping industry off East Africa, but violence has escalated in recent months. Pirates held some 30 ships and more than 600 hostages
RayRAhem… forum… ahem… presumptuousness… ahem….
Thats certainly not presumptuous.There has been much discussion regarding this before.I dont think I am the only forum member who visit this very nice thread[the best one if I may say] for a rapid look at the days news and events and sometimes have to wade through lot of other posts to get at the news.There are other threads for discussion , why not use those?
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=102944&page=21
But anyway suit yourself.
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And may I also take this opportunity to thank Tango III , BlauerMax and others who maintain this thread and do such a great job of it.:)
RayRMy point exactly. Not that they aren’t used (though taking one side of the story as gospel is always fraught with danger) but that they are relatively easily detected IF used…
China had reason to check for them and remove them..do NATO allies have such a reason?
I am not saying its a gospel , just that it looks quite probable to me.
RayRAlways need to take such things with a pinch of salt. There’s no sources given for the interview and no way to check. I think the PAF has never really released any official details of such exchange programmes before, so not sure how a PAF pilot can provide such details in an interview without official sanction or approval.
I think that PAF pilot exchange program with Turkey and to some extent China is well known.Like here..
Shaukat later served in the Turkish air force as part of the Exchange Posting Program between the air arms of the North Atlantic Treaty and its allies. He was a flight lieutenant and had accumulated 1,200 hours flight time in the F-86 by the time East Pakistan became the independent state of Bangladesh in December 1971.
http://babriet.tripod.com/articles/art_mmalam2.htm
Details of Air Chief Marshal Kaleem Saadat
Air Chief Marshal Kaleem Saadat (born December 12, 1951) is the former chief of air staff of the Pakistan Air Force. He was promoted as the air chief on March 20, 2003, when the previous air chief Mushaf Ali Mir died in a tragic air crash along with several other high-ranking Air Force officers on February 19, 2003.Staff assignments
Kaleem Saadat was also assistant commandant of the College of Flying Training at PAF Academy, Risalpur. His staff and instructional appointments include director of plans, chief instructor at the National Defence College, Islamabad, and deputy chief of air staff (operations). His foreign tours include: Exchange Pilot in Turkey(1977-78); Deputation to Algeria(1980-83); War Course at The Ecole Militaire,Paris, France (1989-90) He has qualified the Flying Instructors” Course from Risalpur; Staff College and Air War Course from Air War College PAF;L”ESGI and CSI from the Ecole Militaire in France; National Defence Course from the NDU, Islamabad.
http://pakistanherald.com/Profile/Air-Chief-Marshal-Kaleem-Saadat-528
RayRI find it extremely difficult to understand how the whole world would not be aware of the American’s “tracking their aircraft” if they did so by transmitting a signal from the aircraft itself. Do the PAF not operate ESM systems afterall?
The world is aware actually..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1382116/China-finds-spy-bugs-in-Jiangs-Boeing-jet.html
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