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February 15, 2011 at 2:13 pm in reply to: Indian Air Force- News & D iscussion #15 #2343854

RayR
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While the MCA does have serpentine intakes, I have never read anywhere the LCA having them.

Hint:Y duct.
Check this cutaway pix of LCA.Do you think you can see the compressor face from the front?
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1638/lcacut.jpg
Also see
M2K:
http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/militaryaviation1946-2006cutaways/images/10910/dassault-mirage-2000-5-cutaway.jpg
Gripen:
http://www.aereo.jor.br/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jas-39_gripen_cutaway_lg.jpg

This is usually not a probelm with single engined jets with dual intakes at the leading edge of the wing root.

February 15, 2011 at 1:13 pm in reply to: Aero India 2011 #2343922

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HJT-36 Sitara display routine

HJT-36 display

It was a nice little display.but would have been better with wingtip smokers.

February 14, 2011 at 8:07 pm in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2344829

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“LCA MMR” are you talking about Isreali one or dead project from DRDO?

The current mmr is a hybrid of the original mmr and el/m 2032 and is going to be in lca with a detection range of 150 km for 3 sq m target.
The original mmr tested in hack avro 748 aircraft had a range of 120 km.

The JF 17, KLJ 7 range is more then enough to detect any IAF jet more then 100km. Whats the RCS of Mig 29 and SU 30, certainly more then 3sq m?!

100 km is not a magic figure.Other aircraft will detect the JF 17 further out.

Well the Pakistan and Chinese weapons are a reality and they do work. I feel sorry for the IAF chief because PLAAF are moving forward instead of tendering for advanced jets from all parts of globe.

Ah…just like the chinese a/c pose a danger to India irrespective of them being copied or not , same thing applies to IAF aircraft , whether they are indigenous or acquired through mmrca program.

Glad to say this, Indian independent efforts will stumble when MMRCA is decided and indian involvment in PAK FA is increased from current zero. This is due to resources will be transferred from LCA project to building these superior aircraft.

Yep.

February 14, 2011 at 7:44 pm in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2344853

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@ Jō Asakura !
@ rayrubik

Again, see my post above ! The F-35 offer came only much later and if the AMCA will ever fly …. only time will tell for all these types.

Deino

That is where you are wrong. LM has been saying for a long time that if F 16 is selected , it can be replaced by jsf at a later date.
Plus consider this , since the beginning of the mmrca contest , the US has offered versions of the F 16 and F 18 which are more advanced than what is being used currently.Even if India wanted jsf before , its very likely that the US would have agreed.

February 14, 2011 at 6:55 pm in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2344926

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For sure … since it it was their only chance to get anything in terms of a fifth generation type. :p Or do You know another possibility ?
Deino

Ahh..really Deino?:rolleyes:
There is something called a JSF which US offered India to join.
Also there is something else called the AMCA which I posted here and is going to get a preliminary funding of 2 bln.

February 14, 2011 at 4:26 pm in reply to: Aero India 2011 #2345062

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Thanks guys , i have uploaded some more scan copies of Product Catalog which i picked up that induces Tejas MK-2 and AMCA

No display/mention of the sudarshan LGB kit anywhere??

February 14, 2011 at 3:41 pm in reply to: Aero India 2011 #2345144

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Photographing with the moon seems to have caught on…

Heaven..

And…

Lucky ******* 😎

February 14, 2011 at 2:59 pm in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion 6 #2345212

RayR
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The illustration is nice.
Everybody recognises that Indian navy requires some aircraft to operate from its carriers in construction.Eurofighter wants to cash in on this.

Now what are the options IN have?
1.JSF – best option in the current and future market.
2.Naval Pakfa ?- some talk about developing a naval variant of the FGFA..not known what will come of it in the end.
3.Naval Eurofighter – UK will have the JSF and not the naval typhoon.Makes sense for IN only if typhoon wins the mmrca contest.Otherwise its better to go for JSF.
4.Mig 29 K?- Not a good option -concern with obsolescence.
5.Naval Tejas – Again IN wants a medium aircraft with good strike capability , not a air defence bird.
6.Any other??Naval Gripen??

February 14, 2011 at 5:56 am in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2345550

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I like how the ACM’s remarks have led to all this — I would have thought everyone and anyone, even the hardest sinophobes would call the comment BS. I mean… ethics and reverse engineering… Really?? We’ve gone from viggen to Mig-25 and F-117, F-22 and MFI… Come on people.

What the ACM said is true from the idealist point of view.
However the point remains that in the real world , a bullet even if it comes out of a cloned AK 47,will kill you.Even a kid will understand that.

The funny aspect which has emerged from all of this is the “hyper” reaction from the chinese posters , not too mature is it?
Anyway.

February 14, 2011 at 4:59 am in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion 6 #2345636

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1. The Flanker has a bigger radar but only the latest Flankers (MKI upwards) will have a radar with similar performance figures of the Gripen NG radar. It is possible that majority of ChiCom flankers Indian NGs face will have inferior radars.

What are the specs of the Gripen NG radar?

b. The European weapons are designed with RCS in mind compared to Russian ones.

Such a generic statement.Do you mean to say european seekers are much better than Russian ones?

3. The Gripen has a clear edge in terms of passive sensors and datalink. A group of Gripens can do a much better job together than a group of Flankers.

Gripen has an advantage only when it is flying around in a heavily networked environment.Plane versus plane it has not got any real advantage over an MKI.

February 14, 2011 at 4:50 am in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion 6 #2345640

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When is the MMRCA going to be delivered? The PLAAF are retiring their oldest Flankers already and upgrading the ones still in operation. It is wishful thinking to believe the majority of their Flankers will still be using the radars they had since the 90s when the MMRCA finally start becoming operational.

You have got no options to improve radar to the level of a M2K, stop thinkingof matching up with AESA radars of mmrca aircraft.

What more, by that time, J10Bs should also become operational, have fun with that.

A paper plane.

Only valid if the NG plans to fight Indian Flankers.

Not a valid statement at all.Indian flankers also have RCS reduction measures and the Gripen would have a hard time against it particularly when it will have NIIP aesa radar as upgrade.

Again, you are comparing a paper plane of the future with operational planes now. By the time your paper plane becomes real, the real planes of today would have also been upgraded.

PLAwolf still trolling I see.From when is Gripen NG operational?

February 14, 2011 at 4:48 am in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion 6 #2345643

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C5>R77 is not arguable infact all C models have longer range and Home on Jam capability.

Very simplistic view of things and incorrect.R 77 also has home on jam.A difference in “maximum range” of 20 km is not at all significant.Nobody launches missiles from that kind of range lol.The launching distance in Iraq wars was more like 20 miles.This is due to the fact that at larger distances it is impossible to ID hostile from friendly resulting in chance of blue on blue particularly when in an air campaign scenario lots of friendly aircraft are going to be flying around.Also at ranges nearing maximum range the Pk of missiles falls precipitously.

February 13, 2011 at 9:59 pm in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2345852

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stick to what you have said.
I told you to read again is to correct your grammar problem, not saying the data provided by Jane’s is correct.
How do you know”more or less same in both”?
F-16s’ APG-68 was derivative from APG-66. APG-66(V) APG-68(V)1-(V)10 are all more or less the same???

If there were people jumping around about the J-10, you are one of them. Did you do any better with false date than no data?

92 km for 3 sq m target.Nothing at all to brag about.J 10 is a “okay” aircraft.Flankers (Indian and Chinese) are better.Even M2K with RDY is far better.

February 13, 2011 at 9:38 pm in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2345866

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Can you read?
READ again for God Sake

A derivative of the KLJ-7, and likely employing a larger diameter array, the KLJ-10/J-10A, is believed to have been installed in the Chengdu J-10 fighter aircraft

however Jane’s also made mistakes
J-10A use 1473 radar, not 1478
and
1478 is the active phased-array AEW radar used on KJ-200 AEW&C:dev2:
totally nonsense

edit:I see 92 km for 3 sq m.Thats poor to say the least.

J-10 Avionics tech specs have never been officially released, what have western sources indicated were nothing more than speculations.

You mean all this jumping around about the J -10 is without ANY data regarding its primary sensor’s performance??:eek::eek:
And yet your compatriot wants to argue based on “actual facts and numbers”!!!!:rolleyes:

February 13, 2011 at 9:08 pm in reply to: Aero India 2011 #2345920

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http://aeroindia2011pics.blogspot.com

My collection of pictures taken from Aero India 2011 , more will be up in next few days ,

Nice.
We had so few picture of the stalls this time.
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