A few pictures from Indian LUH trials..
http://www.gauravschimar.com/gallery-categories/himalaya-ladakh-helicopters-choppers/#!prettyPhoto
INS Jalashwa from Tropex?

X posted from MP net
Question about the class:
Why no large sonar bulb for a primarily ASW ship?
It HUMSA-NG and most probably , in addition to the bow , sonar arrays are also fitted on both the flanks amidships.
In addition , it will also have towed array either Nagan from NPOL or european.
Sahping up quite nicely! Any more pics which give a better view or different aspect?
Refresh my memory: this does get Barak vl-sam but no SSM/AShM (i.e. that role picked up by ship helicopter)?
That was the latest pix..no newer ones.
Yes , it gets Barak VLs but no AshMs.
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Nice pictures of IN shars and Virat from Tropex from SA’s blog
http://livefist.blogspot.in/2012/02/exclusive-photos-indian-navy-tropex.html
There are two reported price differences as I see it
1.Unit price – Rafale is cheaper by 5 million euro
2.Total price of deal which includes life cycle costs – Rafale deal is 15-20% less than Ef
India: Rafale Decision Final
SINGAPORE AIR SHOW » FEBRUARY 16, 2012
by NEELAM MATHEWS
February 15, 2012, 12:00 PM
India’s Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne confirmed to AIN here at the Singapore Airshow that the country’s resolve to select the lowest bidder for the contract for 126 medium multirole combat aircraft remains in place. The contract negotiation committee (CNC) opened Dassault Aviation’s bid proposing its Rafale on February 13 and identified the French OEM as the lowest bidder. The decision to involve another manufacturer is “procedurally untenable,” said Browne. “We have a procedure as per the defense procurement policy that stipulates the contract goes to the lowest bidder.”
The CNC, which gets into action once the lowest bidder has been identified, is scheduled to start price negotiations with Dassault from March 5. Discussions will be held on electronics, radar, transfer of technology and offsets.
Asked if he was satisfied with the Rafale selection, Browne said it was, “Brilliant! We got it at the best cost possible. The decision was based on performance and Rafale passed all qualifications.”
However, Browne said the requirement for the fighters was “as of yesterday,” meaning that, in reality, he expects the process to be completed by the end of the year. The air force plans to start pilot training soon, he added.
Browne also said Brazil has asked India to share its acquisition process, including evaluation and lifecycle costs. Coincidentally, India’s state minister, Pallam Raju, is visiting Brazil at the end of March to view the flight of the second, fully modified aircraft for the indigenously developed Indian airborne warning and control system aircraft, the EMB-145, at Embraer’s facilities at São José dos Campos in Brazil.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/singapore-air-show/2012-02-15/india-rafale-decision-final
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If Brazil also get the Rafale , Brazil and India can cross reference each other when dealing with Dassault…
Okay..this is getting ridiculous….
Project 28 corvette in the background..could be Kamorta or Kadmatt :confused:
IAF wants 6 more C 17s….
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/indian-air-force-expresses-interest-in-acquiring-six-more-c-17-planes-boeing/articleshow/11885617.cms
That will bring the total to 16 …
Performance is not SO important? Switzerland is a small, neutral country. Its air force is not going to get involved in adventures outside its borders (does not need a strike capability). It needs an aircraft to police its very limited air space. If Tiger is able to do that, so is Gripen.
Through life costs of a single-engined jet reported to cost Swedish air force $3,000 per flying hour (although not the M21 version) would be much lower than a twin costing $10,000+(?) per flying hour to operate?
MLU would likely be a much cheaper exercise with SAAB than with Dassault?
When the time comes to retire F-18, Gripen would be a much cheaper replacement than Rafale?
Then why have the competition at all?Why not order the Gripen straight away?
I’m sure that India did look at what has happened in the Rafale and Typhoon world since their evaluation, reaching the conclusion that Rafale was a better bet based on its view of the situation as it is today. Switzerland will have done the same, and will have reached the conclusion that Gripen was right for its needs.
Well I beg to differ here..it was not only how it is today but also the upgrade path which was very important too..infact IAF says:
Earlier, while delivering his speech, Sharma said: A good portion of the Staff Qualitative Requirements (SQRs), which the aircraft had to comply with, were on its potential for upgradation, avionics and radar.” Sharma was part of the selection committee of the aircraft.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/226977/iaf-defends-rafale-pick.html
Door Shut on Eurofighter As Dassault Prepares For Commercial Talks with Indian MoD
Informed sources told Defenseworld.net that a high level team would arrive from France and interact with the Indian MoD’s Contract Negotiations Committee (CNC) on defining what the aircraft composition would be like and freezing the price. This process effectively rules out any further discussions with the losing finalist, Eurofighter. B.A.E. Systems, part of the Eurofighter Consortium has claimed that the contract is yet to the signed and that it would pursue its case with the Indian government on getting the deal.
Meanwhile, it is learnt that the Eurofighter Typhoon lost because had a “substantially higher cost” of acquiring and operating the fighter that had let to its termination from the contract, The Times of India reported last week.
“The French Rafale jet, the eventual winner, beat the Typhoon hollow both in terms of life cycle costs and direct acquisition costs. The entire MMRCA project cost would have gone up by around Rs 25,000 crore (US$5 billion) if Typhoon had been selected over Rafale”, the newspaper quoted a defence ministry source as saying.
The Indian Air Force, on Monday rubbished reports in the Western media, especially in the UK, criticising India picking Dassault’s Rafale over Eurofighter in the $10.4 billion medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) deal that will see India procure 126 of the selected aircraft.
I think he meant spares for the firing mechanism?
I agree some of whats written are a bit contentious..
Whats the progress on the NIIP AFAR aesa? Is it ready yet? What are the stats on those?
I am wondering this , because I like to see the Super 30s getting the NIIP aesa rather than the Zhuk AE.Although it has been reported in some sources that the Super 30s are getting the Zhuk , I am not very sure about that.