Likely because Tu-22M3 is upgrade with SVP-24 like Su-24 and unguided bombs are proven to be accurate enough to do their job upper CEP ~ 24m
Seems to me that the CEP is actually proven not to be enough to do the job seeing as the Backfires regularly dump their entire payload on a single target. Imagine if, instead of flying all that way to take out a single target, they could drop single bombs on, say, six different targets but with a much higher likelihood of success.
The only explanation I can think of that explains the way things are done now is that the Russians are keen to get rid of old stocks of dumb bombs… So, less to do with combat efficiency and pilot safety and more to do with keeping the operation cheap as chips. Not saying there’s anything wrong with that, just pointing out that Glonass-guided bombs are also a neat way to get things done and I’m surprised they haven’t at least played around/demonstrated/experimented with that as an option.
The Backfire fleet seems perfect for delivery of glonass guided bombs – each plane could strike multiple targets per sortie – I don’t see why they haven’t been used for that in Syria.
Full video. Apparently some Russian UAV acting as the laser designation for guided artillery rounds of some kind.
A proper UCAV is now just one step away.
This discussion of to Islam or not to Islam simply has no place here. Please stop wasting our time.
Can we all PLEASE agree to do one of two things:
1. Stop referring to “kamikaze drones” as “kamikaze drones”
or
2. Start referring to all guided missiles as “kamikaze drones”
Haven’t the patience to trawl through the whole thread but wondered what was happening with the PLAAF’s older types – particularly the J-8II. There are still some in service, I presume… are there any further upgrade plans or are they all going to be replaced in short order by J-10s and the like?
It’ll be a sad day (for me) when the J-8IIs retire completely.
And only because of the MC-21 hater on the last page, here’s SSJ100 in the special flight squadron:
Just for the record, I’m not a MC-21 hater, I find all airliners equally mind-numbing. That’s why Key Publishing were kind enough to set up a separate forum for the takes-off-flies-in-a-straight-line-then-lands geeks.
Is the MS-21 projected to have any military applications?
I only ask because I find airliners impossibly boring and think you should all ****** off to the civil aviation forum 😀
Tomahawk cruise missiles proved to be difficult targets for Russian electronic warfare systems
A good read but nothing spectacularly new there.
I didn’t get the memo when sintra was appointed the master of moral high ground on this forum in replacement of swerve.
Swerve is smarter than a hundred sintras and has been a valuable member of this forum for years, so back off.
There have been videos of lots of RuAF aircraft carrying out rocket attacks past few days, some firsts too- Su-30SM and Su-35.
Now what could possibly be the point of that?
I used to come to this thread for news of RuAF operations in Syria… Can’t the mods do something about all the bullsh!t? Thanks.
Yep. Simply priority and money has not gone into UAVs, but traditional war fighting means. If a measure of comfort due to new air-frames, or experience in Syria proves to influence VKS decision making, we will find out soon.
Well, it seems like a massive error from where I’m sitting. If only because golden opportunities to gain experience and start working UCAVs into doctrine are being missed. Even a small, experimental unit would go a long way to changing this and yet no efforts appear to be expended in this direction.
Perhaps the experiences of allies (the Iranians and Iraqis) might shift things along a bit… perhaps.
For me, it sits right shoulder to shoulder with reliance on dumb munitions – i.e. what appears, falsely, to be a short-term saving that will have knock on effects in the long-term.
Question: What is so wrong with the Russian military-industrial complex that it has continued to very obviously fail to produce a simple UCAV according to the Predator/Reaper model … even though a need for something like that has been around since those eight days in Georgia eight years ago … and even though the Chinese, Turks and god knows who else is making them and putting them in the field.
Simple Russian UCAVs would transform the intervention in Syria (which could also be a testing ground for the operation of UCAVs on a large scale) and yet there has been nothing.
The Russians – however successfully – have been fighting the war in Syria with much the same technology the USAF deployed in Iraq in 1991.
Simple & perfectly valid rule: continuing with an unpleasant status quo, accepted as legitimate by a large proportion (possibly a majority, except in Bahrain) of the citizenry because it’s been the rule for a very long time, they’re used to it, & it fits their ideas of state legitimacy, is far less wicked than imposing the same regime where there was previously something better & no history which would legitimise it.
Or do you think that leaving the Saudi system in place is equal to forcibly imposing it on your homeland?
Note that the Saudi state has internal opponents who wish to set up something worse, along the lines of Daesh, with the reintroduction of slavery, etc., & who’ve tried starting armed rebellions.
I actually think that legitimacy is a little more complicated than that… And Saudi rule a little less defensible.