[QUOTE=Planemike;1886708]£ 34:95 if you are member of Air Britain. Price includes delivery.
Ahh, now I understand. Are you our next Chancellor. So I re-join for £20+ and get the book £17.55 cheaper. Cunning plan:diablo:
Monarch Of The Jet?!
No! 33 Sqn RAF with a body:eek:
I’ll also leave by the back door.
There appears to be more in the book than what is being alluded to here. :confused:
Looks like I will have to break out the pension book and buy Peter Amoses work of art. Your words not mine. £52.50:eek:
Unfortunately I didnt buy Mr Browns book when it was released and that is from a boy that grew up close to Shoreham with the Miles Student and Beagles galore to keep me interested.:D:D
By the way Paul, trawlling through Flight global there were many Japanese Pilots in the UK at various training establishments in the 1930’s.
Now thats what I call a news story! rather than some of bland stuff we get dished up:D
Mark Twain might have been misquoted as having said: ‘The report of the demise of the ‘Satyr’ was somewhat exaggerated’.
Just trawled through flight global archives and come up with the following:
FLIGHT – 14 September 1933: reported that the Satyr was at the Hook Aerial Garden Party, with a charming picture of the good lady in her Gypsy Moth. Also (and I quote) “Fit. Lt. J. Pugh showed off the paces of the Miles “Satyr” and cut up paper in the air with the same machine. Later in the afternoon a “Bucking Ford,” designed in a nightmare and produced by a well-known motor firm, was bombed by the “Satyr,””
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1933/1933%20-%200537.html?search=miles%20satyr
So, was the crash an accident, incident, slightly bent by mishap. Definitely not written off.
FLIGHT, FEBRUARY 15, 1934 –Satyr been through Hanworth workshops in the past week
FLIGHT, FEBRUARY 28, 1935. Great Britain’s Civil Aeroplanes – Miles Satyr, privately owned, registered and airworthy.
FLIGHT, NOVEMBER 17, 1932 – FLIGHTS handling report as mentioned in AM Dec 1977 article.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1932/1932%20-%201168.html?search=miles%20satyr
Have yet to find anything else in FLIGHT other than what we believe we already know.
To quote Avion (hope you don’t mind), ‘However I wonder if it will ever be possible to ascertain more concerning the 1936 accident – if there was one – or the ultimate fate of the Satyr’.
That Lady has definitely had the last laugh! Unless of course, you know different?:)
Paul, you have just blown the accuracy of the AM article out of the water.
Is the Western Morning News you refer to, from the south west and still in daily circulation?
Off thread, I have found a distant ancestor who originally created that paper then died in a freak boating accident. Isn’t research full of suprises.
Back on; Avion, have recieved your message and hopefully will reply this weekend as requested.
The Aeroplane Monthly (AM) article (Dec 1977) was written by a ‘Richard Riding’! Is this the same author as the Ultra lights book? Interesting.
The AM article mentions the demise of the Fairey Fox G-ACAS (sister ship to Satyr on the pageant circuit) on the 14 July and that Mrs Bruce crashed a month or two later.
According to the CAA website G-INFO, G-ACAS was struck off charge in Dec 1933, which makes the wire strike Aug/Sep 1933. Perhaps a Stafford local Newspaper Archive will resolve this?
Paul McMillan found in Flight that a Mr Yamamoto flew the Satyr to and from Switzerland in Feb 1935 and (info from another forum) the last C of A renewal was Oct 1935, thereby confirming it was rebuilt.
03 Sep 1936 saw the Satyr removed from the UK Register. Could it be in a barn somewhere or did it crash after being re-registered somewhere else?
Sorry to have muddied the water, but I find the seemingly unsolvable keeps this old brain ticking over.
BBC + others. Vulcan to the Sky we thank you for contributing to the 30th Anniversary.
I still remember that lump in the Stanley runway AM2 matting that woke me up 12+ hrs out of Ascension. All thanks to Martin Withers and crew who left their mark.
Waddington enjoyed your circuits, even more by knowing who the crew was on board.
Have a great season.
We will remember those we lost 30 years ago.
Bob
The prog was about ” Black Buck ” not a free advert for Vulcan to the sky !!
Autostick, perhaps you wish to contribute some bags of lucre to this fantastic memorial (XH558)to keep it flying. If not:):):)
For me any free advertising is extremely welcome. A fitting tribute.
By the way, yes I was deployed at that time, but with the Hercs.:diablo:
Safely down 18.58. Sounds like a good flight:D:D:D
Duxford Diary for more
Is it a ‘real’ aeroplane or just an exibit (mock-up)? OK I’m leaving now:D:D
Cranes were not a problem as many were folding tripods with a shackle and a pulley winch chain affair.
Ah!! the regulator didn’t disappoint. Speculation is an unhelpful diversion from the truth. The truth may be withheld out of respect for others, may be purely political, and at times may jeopardise certain folks safety. As I mentioned in my previous post, the Official Secrets Act also binds many of us. There are numerous other occasions when it is better not to speculate. That is my last comment on speculation on this thread.:rolleyes:
One story that does the rounds is the amount of equipment that was purported to be on the Conveyor. Any person missing any equipment at the time apparently had it written off against that sinking. If the stories are to be believed the Atlantic Conveyor would never been able to set sail from th UK due to the sheer weight of all that so called on-board equipment.:D:D
Many talk of the lack of damage to Stanley runway. I can assure you that landing in a Herk tanker was very uncomfortable due to the uneven hastily repaired surface even with the AM2 matting over it. What it was like for the tooms I can but wonder. Heleo’s and jumping beans were no problem.:)
TonyT, somewhere I have photos of the final Odius flypast. Will dig them out and scan. Was that AM the same that went to the stags on the other side of the airfield. Absolute gent. I worked with his buddy RH. RH loved Pumas but couldn’t abide the double rotating, hydraulic palm trees (Chinooks to the uninitiated). One off the A C who swam for his life as a Junior Tech and survived, was last seen as a Chief Tech on the Stars never having left Odius but worked in every hangar. I believe young OU retired from the mob in about 2003. Plastic modeller extraordinaire. Ah! Off thread again.:diablo:
Ah!! the regulator didn’t disappoint. Speculation is an unhelpful diversion from the truth. The truth may be withheld out of respect for others, may be purely political, and at times may jeopardise certain folks safety. As I mentioned in my previous post, the Official Secrets Act also binds many of us. There are numerous other occasions when it is better not to speculate. That is my last comment on speculation on this thread.:rolleyes:
One story that does the rounds is the amount of equipment that was purported to be on the Conveyor. Any person missing any equipment at the time apparently had it written off against that sinking. If the stories are to be believed the Atlantic Conveyor would never been able to set sail from th UK due to the sheer weight of all that so called on-board equipment.:D:D
Many talk of the lack of damage to Stanley runway. I can assure you that landing in a Herk tanker was very uncomfortable due to the uneven hastily repaired surface even with the AM2 matting over it. What it was like for the tooms I can but wonder. Heleo’s and jumping beans were no problem.:)
TonyT, somewhere I have photos of the final Odius flypast. Will dig them out and scan. Was that AM the same that went to the stags on the other side of the airfield. Absolute gent. I worked with his buddy RH. RH loved Pumas but couldn’t abide the double rotating, hydraulic palm trees (Chinooks to the uninitiated). One off the A C who swam for his life as a Junior Tech and survived, was last seen as a Chief Tech on the Stars never having left Odius but worked in every hangar. I believe young OU retired from the mob in about 2003. Plastic modeller extraordinaire. Ah! Off thread again.:diablo:
Tony T,
A lot of your and my friends went for a swim from conveyer only to survive in San Carlos and Kelly’s Garden for the rest of the war. Unfortunately we lost a few after the war and attended their laying to rest.
Having said that, a couple who survived were still at odious often came to annoy me in my office for coffees in 2000. :D:D:D:D
I was deployed on fat alberts during the conflict and remained with them until 86 when I joined the wokka force until 2001.
Have spent a total of over 2 years on the islands from 82 – 01 as part of my career of C130/CH47+ and have thoroughly enjoyed their hospitality as well as many hours of boredom. BUT! I will always support their consolidated wish to remain British.:)
People will have to understand that what happened in 1982 and can be explained, has been! Those items that are covered by the Official Secrets Act will remain dormant until the Government of the Day says different. Speculation is very unhelpful. (Other threads on this site!!!):mad:
Bob