Excuse my ignorance, but why have a deterrent that isn’t a deterrent other than to keep your mates (sorry voters) in work?
The deterrent (as far as we know) has worked for the past many years. Now we are telling peoples to vote Labour and all adversaries are welcome to our shores.
Have I got this wrong?
Everything has a fine balance. I am sure there is a controlling empire, I am just not sure how effective they are. Tangmere1940 where are you, I bow to your wisdom!
In this day and age of act now & repent at leisure; scoop up as much as you can to preserve patterns for future projects. But! you only need one complete airframe to convert into CAD accurate drawings. Unfortunately there are many worthy & well-meaning persons duplicating this effort.
I know of some recent crash sites (30+ years) that the bereaved families believe should be treated as similar to war graves. It is disheartening to go back to these sites and find them cleansed!
I believe in the first instance (as I think is usually the case) the bereaved should be consulted. From then on it should be carefully analysed before anything if at all is lifted from the site.
This is my own humble opinion and would welcome an open debate.
The Lightning T4 is the one and only preserved T.4 – XL629 at Boscombe Down. XL629 was used by the Empire Test Pilots School from 1966 to 1975 and retains the colours she wore while in service.
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/lightning/survivor.php?id=171
Markk12, re post 27. No matter your now ancient mode of travel, look at those apprentices Route Lining the taxiway. If you went back to the main gate, you would find a 6ft+ guy with chocolate all over his lovingly cleaned and gleaming bayonet. Some horrible little child behind me decided this was great fun. The Queen and her entourage were approaching so now’t could be done. I still remember the pride we apprentices felt being at that auspicious occasion. Much better than those many thankless London Mall Route Linings we did on State Occasions. Timeless Photo thank you!
Having just got round to seeing it with a Chinese and a bottle of plonk, I thought it made good viewing for the general public.
Those of us in the know (my brother was a crew chief on the ‘hole in the wall gang’ 617) we can pick it to bits. It came as a surprise to find that Guy had spent 4 months with the team. This is no ‘I’m a presenter’ type docu. The jacks were lowered inch by inch with the locking ring just above that measurement. Yes if you get it totally wrong then that’s a jack up through the structure. Deep pockets are required to repair. If Mike Pollitt was being honest then Guy did a fair job of operating the aircraft. Taff doesn’t take any prisoners and appeared to welcome Guy into the family even letting him marshal at one point. Have you tried to do that? Straight out of training, marshalled Varsity’s chiefy points to you, Vulcan inbound, slot one; go! Brown adrenalin comes into play.
Yes I agree more time could have been spent on the reasoning behind the grounding. Joe public still don’t understand. My management (been round military aircraft all her life) even said why doesn’t the government or someone fund its continuation. It is not until you explain about time expired components, engines, structure, design authority requirements, insurance, etc., then the light bulb comes on. As I think (correct me if I’m wrong) Bill Perrins said after the nose leg incident in Scotland, the time has come to put the old girl to bed.
Guy really enjoyed his Blades trip including the aero’s. Kudos to the VTTS trust and Guy for being so enthusiastic. You have made millions of people extremely happy. Thank you.
The big yellow taxi is in the news again. Sucessful long range rescue that has been practised & carried out quite a few times.
The most poignant photo for me this year was the Vulcan with the two Gnats.
Not my photo so can’t post it!
Was taught it as a schoolboy including folk, dance, song, Morris and would you believe opera singing. Won some dubious prizes I am told.
Over 50 years later, the management is still captivated by strictly, but me; I currently select between Planet Rock, Gold or Classic FM as I stare at this one eyed monster, (computer!)
Was taught it as a schoolboy including folk, dance, song, Morris and would you believe opera singing. Won some dubious prizes I am told.
Over 50 years later, the management is still captivated by strictly, but me; I currently select between Planet Rock, Gold or Classic FM as I stare at this one eyed monster, (computer!)
Arm the police is exactly the response these murderous thugs want. France saying this is an act of war; is again exactly the response these terrorists want. People saying they are panicking are giving the response the terrorists want. That’s why it’s called terrorism. Spend months and an inordinate amount of resources to possibly eliminate one man and tell the world, just doesn’t cut it with me. This is propaganda for the other side.
Kill him and don’t tell anyone will probably be more effective. Measured silence and not giving the oxygen and air time to terrorists may have a subduing effect. I suppose the answer is, ‘never leave a power vacuum’. Gadhafi, Hussain, Assad all ruled with a cruel hand but their peoples had clarity, a home and food. What do they have now?
ISIS appear to have the upper hand and as with Medusa, cut off a head and how many snakes return.
My honest answer to this is ‘I haven’t a clue!’
Bob
Arm the police is exactly the response these murderous thugs want. France saying this is an act of war; is again exactly the response these terrorists want. People saying they are panicking are giving the response the terrorists want. That’s why it’s called terrorism. Spend months and an inordinate amount of resources to possibly eliminate one man and tell the world, just doesn’t cut it with me. This is propaganda for the other side.
Kill him and don’t tell anyone will probably be more effective. Measured silence and not giving the oxygen and air time to terrorists may have a subduing effect. I suppose the answer is, ‘never leave a power vacuum’. Gadhafi, Hussain, Assad all ruled with a cruel hand but their peoples had clarity, a home and food. What do they have now?
ISIS appear to have the upper hand and as with Medusa, cut off a head and how many snakes return.
My honest answer to this is ‘I haven’t a clue!’
Bob
TonyT
Thats a tail dock, with an aircraft on jacks I would surmise. Jetstream? I cannot quite make out.
Kev35,
May I join with the rabble to say; glad to have you back with your sense of profound sanity.
Do not doubt yourself for the position of moderator. You have as much experience as the rest of us put together. You appear to give (over many years) a balanced and considered opinion.
This new forum that you would wish to impose on us can only thrive with your type of oversee. Grab it with both hands and once again make your Father proud.
It will help in the healing process as you join the rest of us that overnight wonder why we no longer have parents. Continue to give back what you always have done. Our thoughts are with you at this extremely difficult period.
I support you 150% Diversify and grow. You know it makes sense.
Bob
Full report is published for download on the AAIB web site.
https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aircraft-accident-report-aar-3-2015-g-spao-29-november-2013
Thank you for these pictures. Hopefully you have many more that you may wish to share with us.
It will keep our so called experts guessing for some time.
Bless you sir
Bob