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Now, form thosee persepctives, the Tiffie’s proportions are better, as always, the lines are cleaner and the Tiff is more ‘filled out’, there is nothing more ‘nimble’ aobut the J-10, with that astupid overhanging tailplane, and those vestigial surfaces below the single engine.

The J-10 looks like a horrible cross between a Gripen and one of the Soviet’s 70s interceptors. It’s gangly, in comparison to the Eurofighter Typoon. probably becuase the Typhhon is sleeker, has a more pointed nose, and the positioning of the Canards is both physically better, and aesthetically better.

Side on:

Simply put, the eurofighter looks like it was designed form the bottom up by the same people, not like it had the aft fuesalage nicked from the Gripen, the MiG 21 wings, Eurofighter’s chin mount and an old soviet nose on it…..

Everything depends, the Eurofighter might have less drag in the wing due to over wash by the canard and a better lever force but it has not better induce lift by the canard.

By the way i said the J-10S not the single seater niether the newest one with the DSI

I like more the J-10S than the Eurofighter simply because its inlet is for a faster jet and looks more like a shark

the latest J-10 is is ugly, it might be a very lethal aircraft but i stick to the other one

I suspect that a few Cymric, Scottish, Eirish, Northern Irish and Channel Islanders would resent that first bit

Lightning ain’t pretty, she’s handsome. Same with the Bucc and Sea Vixen. The jawline is too masculine and the shoulders too muscley from too much swimming to look like the classic beauty but there is something a bit classy and unique about them.

EAP and Eurofighter look too fragile to my eye (clearly they are not, this aesthetics not engineering talking)

And tangentally to the ‘which nation roolz‘ flavour I seem to be in a minority of 1 in thinking that the Crusader looks just like a jetfighter should do (the proposed two seat strike fighter version just looked even better in my view)

The earliest mockups I’ve seen of Phantom II (when the design still had 4x 20mm cannon) looked lovely. Production and improvement just made her lumpier and lumpier. But she is distinctive and purposeful and that stops me short of calling her ugly.

Spitfire looks prettier than any engine of destruction has the right to.

I disagree with you,
The EAP looks okay but not as nice as the J-10B or Lavi to my eyes
The Harrier is okay i like it, the Panavia Tornado too, why i do not like teh EAP so much?

Simple the aircraft does not look as aerodynamic as the MiG 1.44 or the nimble J-10, those aircraft look a bit nicer the Eurofighter is okay i like it but to be honest i feel the J-10S looks better and the Lavi too.

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you must be joking right? the Vulcan was amazingly ahead of its time! also the delta wings on that must have required massive amounts of research in 1948!! all which made the plane a far better bomber than anything the Americans had! if I remember right from the stuff I read in Vulcan 607. in a exercise in the 60’s 4 British Vulcan’s managed to penetrate us airspace unchallenged one of which flew right over new York. where as the American’s own planes where easily detected and took out!
to say you don’t like the look of British planes is fair enough but to question the performance & design is rather silly. those AV-8s you seem to like you owe to British design. that P-51 was rubbish until it had a British engine! I think you would find if we had your budget we would produce far superior planes! lol Rant over!

The Vulcan like any aircraft has science applied to it true, in that sense any machine is beautiful do not misunderstand me, however if you compare the Mirage III is far more advanced, its wing design better adapted for high speed, if you compare the Mirage IV or Mirage 2000 with the Vulcan definetively you will see the Mirage is not a simple post WWII German design as the Vulcan is of the early Arado and FW delta wing bombers, as far i can say it is a matter of personal taste but for me teh french have better good looking aircraft thanks to better investment in aerospace industry and an excellent engineering tradition

and lets not forget there have been some god awful merkin planes to

and some british planes are beautiful

granted two of those planes are not really fully british but i think there viable to be counted as british although i agree with french plane’s being on average the best looking…….. after Saab of course!!

If i tell you which nation i think has the most numbers of beautiful aircraft as an avarage of its aircraft production i will say

France is 1, it has the Mirage family all of them are beautiful. from the Mirage III, IV, V, 2000, 4000, F1 and of course the Rafale the most beautiful of them all, also most of its helicopters are beautiful and the aircraft they built in colaboration too for example the Alphajet and Jaguar

the US is number two with the F-16, F-15, F-14, B-757, F-18, F-22, E-2, AH-64 Apache, P-51, B-29, P-8 and the list is too extensive but the average american aircraft is good looking.

the 3erd spot is for Sweden, AJ-37, Tunnan, Gripen.

4 is Brazil since the brazilian aircraft are in average beautiful
The AMX, E-190, ERJ-145 are beautiful.

5 is Russia since the can build things like the MiG-29M or Su-24 which i really like but also really ugly jets like the MiG-9 or hideous helicopters like the Mi-12 and russin has plenty of ugly jets of 1950s vintage like the Su-7, MiG-15, La-15

6 is for England since the Harrier, Jaguar, Panavia Tornado, Spitfire, Eurofighter and EAP are okay but are not the most beautiful aircraft, aircraft like the Lighting make the MiG-21, A-7 or J-8II look beautiful, and the Vulcan makes the Skyray look gorgeous

7 is for China i like the J-8II and J-10B and kind of like the L-15 and Z-10 but their designs are not so beautiful.

8 is for Germany since the Ju-388 and Ar-234 are some of my favorites but Germany lacks modern jet aircraft of their own and all their modern aircraft are also part french or english

9 is for Israel, the Lavi is beautiful but the Kfir so so and the Arava hideous
the rest have few aircraft i like

From Japan only the F-1, Ki-61 and T-4, from Argentina the IA-63 Pampa, from Italy the Mangusta and AMX are okay, from Taiwan the IDF, from India the LCA and so on.
From Ukraine the An-124 but that is also Russian

The Brits can win this hands down…..

Best: The mighty, fantastic, revolutionary, jaw dropping, spectacular….AVRO VULCAN. Closely followed by the TSR2 in 2nd place.:cool:

Worst…. Nimrod AEW. Sorry, but that nose is just…..

Job done… competition over… Congratulations to British innovation 😀

man the british aircraft are not exactly beautiful, the french and american are the best looking, the Russians have sometimes good looking aircraft like the new Sukhoi RRJ or the Tu-204.

Even the Harrier looks better in the american version:D
the P-51 is more beautiful than the Spitfire:D despite both aircraft have the same engine, the Tomcat looks better than the Panavia Tornado and to be honest the Victor, Vulcan and Valiant are one of the most ugly bombers ever been built i`d prefer the B-52 or the Mirage IV.

man even the A-5 vigilante is more beautiful than the TRS2

If you have a EAP and a Rafale people will say in most cases Rafale is more beautiful, well even the Lavi is much better looking than the Eurofighter.

I have no prejudice but definitively british aircraft are not beautiful:D in exception of the Harrier GR5 which is half american

And what UAV pictures have been photoshopped? So far I see a lot concept models. Unless you’re angling that China is so inferior at model building that those are the ones photoshopped. Really this is about insecure little girls peeing in their pants trying to scare their governments into giving more money to their militaries. Well at least this actually regarded something that could be seen as threat unlike lying about painted rocks so they scream that invasion was near.

I do not think he is talking about that, but the fact it is really hyped, UAVs are designed bo be expandable, either to be targets or expose less an offensive, they are to be cheap.

Most UAVs are not jet powered; in fact many are propeller driven and some like in the case of Mexico are virtually RC aircraft.
The main objective of a UAV is save lives and do a job at a cheaper price.
In the modern air theater of operations SAMs are the true kings, stealth aircraft manned or unmanned are exposed to such situations of course if an air force can make stealthy UCAVs then it further its ability to strike, but still roboaircraft are basicly less flexible than a manned aircraft with a human being controlling the whole scope of the battle and taking decisions.

Battle stations far away guide the UCAV but still its virtual pilot will have a slightly more limited view and a completly autonomous Roboplane is too much of a risk for an air force

Worst looking I think are the Hawker Siddeley Bucaneers. That thing doesn’t look airworthy in my eyes. Along the same line comes the soviet Tu-22 Blinder.
I am one of the few people in the world to find the Eurofighter Typhoon beautiful though. In fact most of the new fighter designs look good.
(Edit: a good exception is the F-35. I can’t stand that thing.)
Best of all time for me would be the Mirage 4000 though.

The F-35 is not bad looking certainly is not the best looking modern fighter, but if i would make my list it would be like this

Fighters 1-F-16, 2-MiG-29, 3-F-14, 4-Su-27 and 5-F-18E
Fighter bombers 1-Su-24, 2-F-111, 3-AMX, 4-FBC-1 5-AJ-37
Bombers 1-Tu-22M2, 2-B-1B, 3-Ar-234 4-Ju-388, 5-Tu-160

AWACs 1-ERJ-145AEW 2-An-74 3-E-767 4-E-2C and Il-76Midas

By the way in Mexico we have the ERJ-145

if you want to go russian, the Tu-160 is a FAR better looking aircraft than the Tu22m

It depends in personal taste i like the Tu-160 but i feel personally is not as beautiful to the ghostly shape the Tu-22M2 has, also the Tu-22M looks like a huge fighter with those inlets and its wings are more like a fighter than a bomber since they do not imply a huge internal bay, it looks like a huge MiG-23 but with nicer looking cabin and canopy.
Also has a more gracious radome than the Su-24 and F-111.

Personaly i like the F-14 too but i feel it looks a bit ungaining while the F-16 looks like a fighter, light, simple but very aerodynamic.