Don’t know the story behind them, but here’s another 3
The first one is a visibility experiment with a green top and a blue botton. The idea is that it would blend in with the foliage looking down and blend in with the sky looking up. Same principle with the Navy’s old dark blue top light blue bottom scheme, just replace the foliage with the sea.
Actually, they could eliminate either the S1850 or Artisan radar and save a couple hundred million.
They could also not have a clue what aircraft are around including their own. Having a F-35 go into the drink because the ship has no ATC capability costs more than the radar.
Nonsense:
Rafale M had a 610 kg navalisation weight penalty,
keeping proportions: Sea Gripen will have ~400 kg weight increase over Gripen NGhttp://www.aero.pub.ro/wp-content/themes/aero.pub.ro/uploads/JANE_S_ALL_THE_WORLD_S_AIRCRAF/JANE_S_ALL_THE_WORLD_S_AIRCRAF/jawa0257.htm
http://robotpig.net/aerospace-news/sea-gripen-for-india-_1601
With Rafale, its more like a weight savings. Its designed as a naval aircraft (which constitutes most of the design differences from the typhoon) and they made a lighter land version. That being said, Gripen’s airframe already has a lot in common with naval aircraft because of how the swedes operate and wouldn’t require as much strengthening. The only real concern would be the nose gear which retract aft.
Rafale can operate from Foch but it would make no sense to keep the existing catapult with the bridle system. For the price of a single Rafale or Gripen, you can probably do a complete refit.
The bridle system is on the aircraft, not the ship. The cat shuttle doesn’t care if its a bridle or launch bar.
Rafale can’t operate from Foch at all, which is why they retired her early. They had to add a ramp to the end of the cat to keep it from going into the drink during quals
Sadly, I don’t think this is over.
Basically what it came down to is that congress wouldn’t fund a european plane. Ready for round four.
Either join the MTCR or ditch it, I say.
Anyone speculations on the juicy matter of the prospective Russian Aircraft Carrier? What do you think the design will be? Who will build it? What systems will it have? What aircraft will it carry? How many?
I have a strong hunch the final design will remain STOBAR like the Kuznetsov. A coventional design will require Russian to develop steam catapults from scratch(which would take too much time and money) or import them(which it won’t do). The fact that STOL capability being one of the features touted for the PAK-FA reaffirms my belief.
Considering Ulyanovsk was 40% complete, you’d assume they already have steam cat technology, just didn’t have a chance to impalement it.
Maybe the RAF can operate a flight? The RNLAF is currently in Tripoli with a DC-10 (might have left by now) to evacuate some 130 people. Mostly Dutch but the TV news also mentioned Belgians, English, Romanian, one Palestinian and perhaps a few more nationalities. It’s due back at Eindhoven AFB tonight.
edited to add: A total of 35 Dutch and 35 people of other nationalities have been evacuated. The 130 referred to the total capacity of the plane, which apparantly was not needed. It’s possible that in the next day or two another flight will be operated. The Navy has diverted the Hr. Ms. Tromp to Libya, it was nearby en-route to the Somalian coast on a anti-piracy mission. It is expected to arrive in Libya on friday.
http://nos.nl/artikel/220651-militair-vliegtuig-geland-in-libie.html
The RAF could send in aircraft for evac, but there’s no guarantee forces stil loyal to Gadhafi (BTW is there anyone who actually knows how to spell his last name? I’ve seen like 16 different variants) won’t shoot them done. Getting anyone out will be very difficult until a CAP is established and the libyans don’t feel any real need to leave their bases.
I do find it anoying that the Pundits use the CVF contract as an example of the poor MOD procurement process without putting it into its correct context.
CVF was an example of poor procurement process, mostly because the civilians were constantly changing their mind about its budget.
What’s ‘insane’ about this?
Its the size of Midway, but the air wing is tiny with the double ski-jump taking up all the bow parking and the arresting gear leaving not that much of it aft. CATOBAR and STOVL off set each other when it comes to deck parking. STOBAR combines the disadvantages of both.
I’d like to know what carriers around the world, planned or in service,
what weight of a/c they can launch ?
More specifically, which carriers are too small to operate F-35C loaded with say,
full tank & 5000 kg of ordnance ?
CdeG might be iffy for F-35. Anything big enough for full length 90m cats will have no problems. Weights have a lot to do with the aircraft more than the ship.
And will these smaller carriers be capable of operate N-LCA & Sea Gripen ?
Depends on whether they’re strengthened for CATOBAR. STOBAR takes up an insane amount room, so there is a limit to how small a STOBAR ship can be. CATOBAR, they could operate safely at full payload on something with 60m cats and 25,000 tons.
What would ark/lusty do? They have no planes.
If the India deal doesn’t go through how much longer longer do you think the typhoon lines are going to be open.
The UN could demand that their air force be grounded.
They UN can demand whatever they want, they don’t have the power to make anyone comply.
Is the Charles De Gaulle back from the Arabian Sea yet?
I can’t find anything on her later than the middle of january.
Is the USS Enterprise carrier group still in the Med or has it transited the Canal for the Arabian Sea?
She’s made it to the gulf, but can be back into the south med within a couple days and bring Vinson with her.
Could the Italians, Spaniards and French scare up some CAP fighters/tankers and base them in say Sigonella and run cab ranks over Tripoli?
If they wanted to. Unfortunately, Europe tend to be somewhat cynical about the plights of others.
if there going to pull the tonkers early wot was the point of scrapping the Harriers, surely if the Tornado is becoming such a high maintanence airframe it would have been better to keep the Harriers?
Tornadoes can’t go to sea. I think that had to play a part in the RAF’s reasoning.