I recently read the USN was considering going back to LHD’s on future models of the USS America Class. For that very reason…
Yep. Great for the F-35B pilots, not so much for the ground marines. I have to wonder if the two america-class ships would be better off in some kind of special operations support role like Kitty Hawk was used during the early days of Afganistan.
btw, the X-47B is set to fly in the next few weeks, about half a year after the F-35C, at this rate I wonder if the F-35C will ever actually take off from a carrier
UCAVs are great for high risk targets, but terrible for anything that requires situational awareness. Think of them as more a slightly more flexible and reusable tomahawk than a true replacement for manned aircraft.
Best option would have probably been Hermes as a stop gap with a new build Invincible. That would have given the closest capability match to what Melbourne was doing. Tomcats in any way, shape or form would have been an non-starter for the RAN. They’d need something about the size of CVF. Even Hornets would have been a stretch.
Takes time to redesign graphics.
I blame Die hard 4.0:diablo:
It is actually not capable of doing what it did in that movie. Harrier, maybe but even it would be hard pressed and it would take a good portion of its fuel load.
Right. Railguns are the future. The question is how long until they’re viable.
And just how big is Afganistan’s coastline?
Ironic that you should mention that since air force tactical aircraft and army infantry could not participate in early operations. The only way in was through Pakistani airspace which was far more accessible by ship.
The Marines want stovl a/c because the Navy seems to have the attitude “as long as it doesnt eat into our carrier deck space, nothing is too goo for the Marines!” In other words……if the Marines only had CTOL birds, the Navy could possibly take a looong hard look at Marine air, and maybe start asking awkward questions such as: Why is it so large? Why do they need a $100+ million dollar stealth fighter when they should be concerned with CAS and a secondary air deffence role?
Negative. They will be eating up carrier deck space as the 400 squadron will be Marine F-35s. Why do they need a 100+ million dollar (in LRIP) aircraft? Because they serve two purposes. The Navy/Marine Corps team needs to be able to fight certain war scenarios with minimal assistance from the Army and Air Force. Ground Marines are the Navy’s infantry and Marine air is the Navy’s ground air force. Being able to land on ships makes training uniform and transport to say, a pacific island like Wake or Midway. It also allows marine squadron to be a reserve backup should there be a shortfall in deployable navy squadrons.
You mean the places where they have firestorms every time someone drops a cigarette? By the way, a Tornado has never done enough damage to any aircraft factory to an extent where it disrupts operations.
You mean like Lockheed Martin (Fort Worth, TX), Boeing (St. Louis, Mo), Cessna (Wichita, KS), Beechcraft (also Wichita), Boeing Wichita, etc.
What do you people think Tornado Alley means? A Tornado hits every square inch of the center of the country?
Sounds like Boeing is shooting itself in the foot by looking dodgey.:confused:
despite my belief that the A330 MRTT is the better aircraft, I still think the KC767 should and will win
Yeah pretty much. If Boeing wouldn’t have completely tried so screw over the tax payer, KC-767As would be in service right now.
If the RAF has its way.
why? as the F/A-18 has proven, carrier aircraft are adept at operating drom land in rough conditions- the smart money says one F-35 variant will be cut- The C can replace the A, not the other way round. without the A, the C’s price drops dramatically
The Air Force won’t allow it.
Clearly, in wartime no country is to concern about the damage that mite occur on some desolate stretch of road way. Nonetheless, I am sure some type of matting could be used during peace time training.
They care because they want their $100 million to be able conduct more than one sortie. You confuse end of war desperation with normal wartime operations.
Well, how is it that the F-35B is a STOVL Aircraft just like the Harrier II. Yet, somehow it can’t operate from austere locations
You fail to factor in that there is not a single way that STOVL works or in the vast majority of planned STOVL aircraft doesn’t work. The Harrier is a subsonic light attack aircraft based on a system of vectored trust with 4 nozzles with 180° motion. The F-35B is a supersonic medium strikefighter based on a lift fan system with at best 90° motion. This works on basically the same principles as the systems for the Yak-38/141.
To sum it up, the Harrier’s system gives up range, payload, and the ability to go supersonic for helicopter-like maneuverability. The Harrier’s system even allows it to fly backwards.
The F-35B gives up helicopter-like maneuverability for supersonic capability, payload, and range much closer to conventional aircraft. Its also easier to fly since the system is deigned more or less for landing only.
Also would this open the way for joint hawkeye and carrier trainers?
It basically is already joint. French, Spanish, and Italian naval aviators are trained in the Navy/Marine Corps pipeline. French E-2 crews are then sent to VAW-120.
Are the Spanish Hornets capable of carrier ops? If not what modifications would they need?
A couple of bolts and the towbar. Half the ones they have are NAVAIR surplus.
800 could take the rotation spot from an east coast marine squadron in 7 or 8 years but its not very likely. First off, the British government would have to give full consent for the squadron to be used at the discretion of the strike group commander if it enters a combat situation while deployed not matter what the british position was.
Some of them should be by the time we get an F-35C for them to test.
They’ll have a couple carrier deployments and graduate from the naval test pilot school? The USN will have operation squadrons by the time that happens.