paul178…If you really want perfection from the Halifax kit open the link otherwise build OOB

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/i…=234910320&hl=

What is being found on the forums, and this link is probably the best you give, is that the Halifax does not look like the real thing, props, spinners, intakes, engine size, wheels, the list is endless. Revell have really screwed up regards accuracy. Yes its got 4 engines and at a quick glance its a MkII series 1 but as soon as photos of the real thing are looked at, its obvious they have goofed. Damn shame after years of waiting. Reading the latter part of this thread sees even more cons listed to those at the start. Its all a case of whether you want it sort of looking like a halifax MkII s 1 or capturing the true look, in which case follow this articles build mods, and a lot of surgery is called for.

I hope they dont even give thought to the Stirling, they will certainly screw that up bigtime as they dont exist in the flesh. Maybe Airfix might do a 1/48 Stirling, impressive beast of a kit if they did, and they would get the shape right, somehow Airfix manage such things.

I also wish they (Revell and Airfix) would do subtle panel lines at this scale, not go back to trenches as their new(Revell)B17 has and Airfix’s Me110 and Spitfire. Shape is good but ruined with trenches which I had thought had gone away with the demise of Matchbox.

DBenz

After all the effort that went into building the street, to then have the placement of both the SC50 and the SC500 ( less its casing) above ground did not recreate the wartime conditions, so whats the point ?
Here was a chance and probably the only chance ever to do an accurate test to see exactly what happens in slo mo, to study the blast wave and so on, to understand the quirks of survival, clothes being blown off, what parts of a house survive etc, and instead they blew it as an accurate experiment !
Mythbusters could have done better. I think though the programme idea is exciting and refreshingly different and commendable and seeing the blast is so different to trying to imagine it whilst reading a book on it.

Done accurately, that wall may have had far less damage from the SC50, perhaps the milk bottle would have tipped over, and so on.
They stopped running 3ft from the finishing line with that bomb placement as such, they should have finished the race !
Instead we see a greater blast as the ground is not acting as a shield, though slight, but it would have had some effect. We are still left wondering what would truly have happened.

To then see what happens when an SC500 explodes where an SC50 had already incorrectly exploded, wheres the ability to see what damage an SC500 can do to a house. That should have been set off underground at the other end of the street to compare like for like. It didnt show me at all what an SC500 does to an undamaged house, and thats what happened most of the time.

I hope they let off the next one on the other end of the street to see what would have happened in reality, or do they plan to recreate the non existent happening of three types all going off on the same spot ?

I would have chosen for the SC50 the outside corner of the street, call it 8oclock in plan view if street heads north, the SC500 at 4 oclock leaving two undamaged street ends 10 and 2 oclock for the remaining bombs.

All bombs going off below ground level as reality. A far better and more accurate and usefull experiment.

DBenz

Nice new scheme …but
It immediately struck me as being the wrong upper surface green though for BoB movie buchons, looking at and freezing the film just now to double check this, they are supposed to represent the dark olive green rlm71 of the two greens used by the Luftwaffe at the time and are in the film more muted as per Luftwaffe WW2. This repaint is the darker black green schwartzgrau rlm70 though far too saturated.
The colour that is supposed to be rlm02 varies green or brown in the repaint shots so a bit tricky to see whats going on there.
This is not being picky, its just not looking like Luft colours/BoB film aircraft on the upper surfaces. I presume it is meant to represent a BoB film aircraft.
BoB film also had Dark green wheel hub covers to look like the black hubs of 1940.

If however the colours are supposed to represent an Me109E in the Battle of Britain they they are very wrong. Not slightly out, but very out.
I have looked at enough models, colour swatches and colour profiles in authoritative books now like the Classic Publications series, Michael Ullman and recently K Merrick with authentic swatches, available at any airshow or model show as well as taken at the time wreckage to know the colours are very different to this. Material widely available.
No Me109E ever had the 70/02 scheme, they went from 70/71 to 71/02 for the uppers, this looks like 70/02 but approximate !
The brown colour I presume is the 02 but brown never existed in the BoB period, though in some shots here it becomes more green. 02 was right on the junction of brown and green but somewhat desaturated as opposed to a strong colour, which this is.
The 70 though is nothing like 70, 70 was a black-green, a desaturated colour as opposed to an obvious green, which this is. Luft prop blades were usually in RLM70 and look at first glance like black.

Here is a link to a correctly painted restored emil.
http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/Luftwaffe/messerschmitt/images/Bf%20109E-3%20wnr%201342.jpg

Not trying to be a killjoy, mere observation of a very big difference. The BoB film colours could be taken as 1940, but this cannot. If its ever seen against the restored 109E’s it will look so different.

DBenz

Gareth, thats been most useful to know, I now seek a decent 300mm tele for my 20D, Canon zoom at £1000 can wait !
DBenz