Catching up on “places to see before you die” Phil, oh and taking a few pics… 😉
Not everybody was well behaved back then ,it seems…..Air Pictorial Feb64
I remember that incident quite well, though I never heard if they discovered who the culprits were.
I seem to recall a story of youths/spotters trying to remove the registration from an Avro York at LAP north side. No idea if it was true, but I think they would have needed a drill and saw to have actually done the deed!
I did act as custodian of the fabric off a Tiger Moth, when Alan Brett wanted to move a set of wings I had been minding for him. He decided they would be less likely to fly off his Rover’s roof rack if the fabric was removed. This he did and I subsequently passed said fabric to a chap at Gransden, who I believe used the fabric as a basis to establish the identity for a Tiger fuse he had aquired. Needless to say it wasn’t the same aircraft, but hey ho, it got another restoration underway. As a post script, Alan Brett spotted his fabric tacked to the hangar wall at Gransden and got a bit shirty! I did point out that he had told me to burn it, so he had effectively given me ownership.
I’m sure there’s a pic of it in British Civil Aircraft 1919 to 1959 (I never got the later editions)
Most of the Croydon residents migrated to Biggin Hill, which had only just de-militarised, so maybe you saw the Viking there? (704 or 705 Greenline coach from, what was The Coach and Horses) That was an RF Mick… to Biggin Hill, via Victoria…:D
Lee…You can checkout the Fifties bus routes on
http://www.londonbuses.co.uk/ and Ian’s Bus Stop is also good
My Red Rover bus route from Heston to Croydon ca. 1959 was 111 or 232(RT) to Hounslow. 37(RT) to Wandsworth, 630 Trolleybus to Purley Way, 115 (RT) to Croydon Airport….Croydon Airport closed just before the Trolleybuses were replaced by Routemasters (630 was replaced by 220)
You are such an anorak Mick…lol. Besides you missed out the RTW’s and don’t get me started on the T’s & TD’s out of Uxbridge! 😀
Here’s another of G-AVEG this time at Booker C1971
You are right Mick. I had two visits to Croydon, both gaining access through a hole in the perimeter fence! It was still open, just, on my 1st visit, when the Scan 30 was there, but it had a VP- reg that time. The 2nd visit it was still there by as EI-ALE. By that time most aircraft had gone and I can only remember the Avro 19 left.
There was also a historical day there, where I 1st saw some of the Shuttleworth aircraft, albeit all being static.
It was in those days quite a feat to travel around London at the age of 13/14. My journey to Croydon, from Hayes entailed the 98 bus to Hounslow, the 37 to Peckham and I think the 73 to Croydon. Would present day parents let their kids do that? I suppose the nanny state had yet to appear in 1960…
The only other mention of TCA Vanguards comes on 19 April 1960, where I have written some notes in pencil and then over-written them in biro. It says, in a list, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, all bracketed with the words “TCA Vanguards” and then, a bit below another list: “C/n 440, 441, 442, 443, 444”. Below that, crossed out, it says “OE-LAL, OE-LAM”. I assume the latter are Austrian Airlines’ Viscounts. There is no mention of the location of these entries but I assume Weybridge.
There is no mention of locations on the previous diary page either (18 April 1960) but it starts with four detailed entries: WP-KCV Rapide wing red reggie, N2718A Aero Commander, F-BJAH Viking, EI-ALE SCAN 30.
Below that is a section of 18 RAF Tiger Moths, starting with N6457 and ending with T6103.
Below that is another section of five Chipmunks: starts with WD302 and ends with WZ 854 (I think).
Then a set of 4 “Procters”, starting with NP179.
Below that is a long list of about 30 civilan registrations, all with the “G-A” bit missing. Most are not identified as to type but the exceptions are: “PUR” (?) and “PXR” Tri Pacers and “PCS” and “PCT” EP9s.
Can anyone suggest where I might have gone on Easter Monday, 18 April 1960?
Sounds like Croydon. EI-ALE was certainly there and the Tigers were fuselages stacked in the Rollasons hangar.
I visited there around that time and noted N5593V a PBY-5A, that I discovered had been owned by Jacque Cousteau. I think this is the one that was eventually abandoned somewhere around the Red Sea, after it’s occupants had been murdered by local badduns.
There were a few Morton Air Services Doves/Herons and a bit of a THY Viscount TC-SEV (?) which had crashed.
There were a set of Proctor wings laying on the ground. I think I have the C/N plate somewhere, relieved at the time. Lastly there was an Anson/Avro 19, but I can’t remember which one
Yes, I’ve got a lot to answer for…:o
Now, how about a thread “Which was the best “pole” for spotting? (East Europeans need not contribute).
Oh, it’s just like the 7B at Pima…
A faded 7B?
These were…:p
Wow, a Triumph Herald and a Standard Vanguard Estate…..
Palm Springs anyone? 😀 http://www.basinandrangewatch.org/images/PalmSpr-wind4.jpg
This is probably the same one before painting at Blackbushe in 1973. Oh yes, there was a Lodestar there too….