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  • in reply to: Lancaster recovery in Normandy #1010035
    l.garey
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    AA: I don’t think it is secret, but I prefer to send you an e-mail.

    in reply to: Lancaster recovery in Normandy #1013987
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    Paul178
    It is true that in certain cases of burials in marshes or bogs the acidity of the soil CAN destroy bone and even teeth: this leads to the well-known phenomena of very old bodies being found almost intact with mummified skin and even internal organs preserved, whereas anything calcified (like bone and teeth) had almost disappeared. However this does not happen in all cases. Whatever, in the case we are discussing it is said that NO HUMAN REMAINS were found. I would have to see it to believe it. Using gigantic JCBs to sift through the mud is a quick method, sure, but not best suited to a search for bones (note the Telegraph video cited earlier by Jackflash (where is he?).
    I still do not understand what earlier excavations were undertaken, especially around the cockpit and front fuselage. Someone out there must know …

    l.garey
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    Graham: naturally I have in mind the original coyright. As AA says, I am just trying to ascertain what interest there might be before sounding out any potential publishers.

    in reply to: London Airport in the 1950s #1015736
    l.garey
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    Not the prototype, but G-ALYP LAP 4-4-1953. Sorry about the quality: unsophisticated 11-year-old!

    in reply to: Lancaster recovery in Normandy #1015841
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    I am disappointed that Jackflash has not resurfaced to answer some of our questions. Please, would you do that in the interests of the Forum, the families, and aviation history in general?

    I just found a reference to another report of the latest “dig”. I don’t think it was referenced here before.

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/lancaster-bomber-remains-found-68-years-after-d-day-crash.html;_ylt=AqFROm3AUCwgsuhErJDln8jEfMl_;_ylu=X3oDMTFwZDR1ZGhiBG1pdANvbmx5IG9uIHlhaG9vIDE1MDMyMDEyBHBvcwMyBHNlYwNNZWRpYUVkaXRvclBpY2tzVGVtcA–;_ylg=X3oDMTJsMG4yM2I5BGludGwDZ2IEbGFuZwNlbi1nYgRwc3RhaWQDYzE0NzBjNDAtOGY0Zi0zYjhlLTkzZTQtNGU1ZWY3MjViYTk1BHBzdGNhdAN1awRwdANzdG9yeXBhZ2U-;_ylv=3

    Can anyone identify the people involved in this dig (eg in the first photo)? Can any of them confirm whether remains of the crew were found or not?

    I am really puzzled by the fact that this report suggests that the Lancaster was only found a few days or weeks ago after 68 years of being lost. Yet, we learn from this thread that the gold ring and other personal items were discovered on a previous dig (or digs). What is the truth?
    Thanks

    l.garey
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    Thanks for the suggestions so far. When we get a feel for what people might like, next will be to find an interested publisher. As AA moots, that might not be easy. It will need a real enthusiast – maybe one of our forum chums.

    l.garey
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    AA: are you thinking of “Un premier siècle d’aviation française” by Michel Bénichou? But that is too recent. Maybe “Histoire de l’aviation” by René Chambe.

    in reply to: Lancaster recovery in Normandy #1016784
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    So, can someone close to, or present at, the latest excavation please answer our questions about what was found, when, and what happened to the findings, or is the subject private and not open to enquiries?
    It would help several of us understand the true situation.
    Thanks in anticipation.

    in reply to: Lancaster recovery in Normandy #1016822
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    Paratroopers from the 3rd battalion 506th PIR 101st airborne division witnessed the crash and assumed it was a P-47. a patrol was sent to the downed aircraft to recover any weapon systems which could be used (baring in mind the area was still under fire). investigation by mr.graves proved it to be a Lancaster.
    ….
    Hope this has answered much of the understandable speculation due to the lack of information from the press.

    Jackflash: I don’t understand how witnesses to the Lancaster crash could have mistaken it for a P-47. What “weapon systems” did the “patrol” hope to find? How could weapons from a crashed aircraft (which had crashed at high speed and was buried deeply) be of use on D-Day, or soon thereafter?
    Re the “speculation”: we are not speculating, just hoping to get answers to some basic questions arising from reports of this “dig”, and to try to understand what happened to the remains of the crew. Can Jackflash please advise?

    Also, looking again at the Telegraph video interview cited by Jackflash, from 00.16 on we see people roughly handling what appear to be structural remnants and throwing them on a pile. What happened to the remnants recovered that day, and is it not possible that human remains could have been amongst them?

    in reply to: Lancaster recovery in Normandy #1016826
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    Jackflash says:
    All the correct measures were taken for the event of remains being found, tony graves has a world of experience on the excavation of aircraft as he’s been doing it since the 1960’s.

    What “correct measures”? Were remains found or not?

    Snoopy: nothing to do with crimes. But it may be important for any family survivors to know where their relations are buried.

    l.garey
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    I can’t compete on the setting of wots. Open house.

    in reply to: Lancaster recovery in Normandy #1017916
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    renewing my query

    Like several others posting above, I find it difficult to understand why no human remains were found. They can last a very long time in quite harsh conditions, even in damp ground. I wonder if the diggers looked carefully and, in particular, was a pathologist or anatomist with some forensic experience present to help find and identify any remains?

    As I had no replies to this query, I wonder if anyone knows whether indeed there was someone with knowledge of forensic pathology at the site?

    in reply to: Lancaster recovery in Normandy #1027670
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    renewing my query

    Like several others posting above, I find it difficult to understand why no human remains were found. They can last a very long time in quite harsh conditions, even in damp ground. I wonder if the diggers looked carefully and, in particular, was a pathologist or anatomist with some forensic experience present to help find and identify any remains?

    As I had no replies to this query, I wonder if anyone knows whether indeed there was someone with knowledge of forensic pathology at the site?

    in reply to: RAF College Aircraft Blue Bands #1017919
    l.garey
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    I don’t know the reference for the blue, but I think it was “Cambridge” (light) blue, as opposed to “Oxford” dark blue, as worn by the Chipmunks of Oxford UAS (note my avatar).

    A related question: 115 Peterborough Squadron ATC had a Vampire T11 at the HQ at Westwood airfield from 1963 to 1973 (XE887). I recall when it was delivered it had Cranwell blue bands, but I can only find a reference to it serving with 4FTS. Is my memory playing tricks, or was it at Cranwell at the end of its career?
    Here is a photo of it toward the end of its stay at Westwood (courtesy of Dave Ellis).

    in reply to: RAF College Aircraft Blue Bands #1027686
    l.garey
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    I don’t know the reference for the blue, but I think it was “Cambridge” (light) blue, as opposed to “Oxford” dark blue, as worn by the Chipmunks of Oxford UAS (note my avatar).

    A related question: 115 Peterborough Squadron ATC had a Vampire T11 at the HQ at Westwood airfield from 1963 to 1973 (XE887). I recall when it was delivered it had Cranwell blue bands, but I can only find a reference to it serving with 4FTS. Is my memory playing tricks, or was it at Cranwell at the end of its career?
    Here is a photo of it toward the end of its stay at Westwood (courtesy of Dave Ellis).

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