I own two Kalashnikov variants, and I thoroughly enjoy them. One is Romanian and the other is Russian. You folks that don’t like guns should come give them a try. Lots of fun. 🙂
Certainly seems like some welcome improvements! Great info! Any idea on whether the rear fuselage pylons or the inboard wing pylons will be integrated with offensive stores? Seems like once the AS.30L left the inventory, they don’t use the inboard wing pylons for anything but external fuel tanks whereas the rear pylons seem rarely used if ever…
Four it is! Thanks!
I assume nobody on the forum knows (or cares?)…
How many MICA IR, MICA EM, and Meteors can the Rafale be fitted with? I don’t think I’ve ever seen the forward underfuselage pylons fitted or the centerline pylon(s) fitted with anything but an external fuel tank
Is there a good (accurate) chart of Typhoon weapons capabilities in terms of what pylons can carry what?
In particular, I’m curious about AAMs. What is the maximum number of AIM-120s or Meteors that the jet can carry? I’ve never seen more than six loaded in photos. Is this accurate?
For AIM-132s, IRIS-T, & AIM-9 is the limit four? (on the four outboard most underwing pylons…)
Sorry fellas I just don’t quite understand everything that’s been said.
Simply put, the R-37M is not in service yet and when it does enter service the limit with be four for the MiG-31BM, all under the fuselage.
Correct?
Sad news. May their family and friends find peace as they mourn.
Fair skies & tailwinds…
Well that’s what I was referring to. They are taking an unguided weapon and turning it into a guided one. With three weapons on each station, that would add a lot of capability to the Mirage 2000 in my opinion…at least it would appear to.
I was present for the first public (I think) taxi-run of the F.1 that’s been restored at North Weald. What an awesome little jet!
Sorry to dig up a fairly old thread, but the BAT 120 is still operational?
Well gents, we may all disagree but at least discussion is occurring on an under reported type. That’s a start!
Perhaps the fuel capacity required to get the range they wanted dictated some of the size?
Which one (or both?) was in Battle of Britain? (If either was that is…)
Malcolm,
You are correct. The war went into a phase where short-range ground attack aircraft weren’t necessary on the Channel front, but perhaps they could’ve been used elsewhere until the fighter-bomber concept was truly workable with adequate types. I’m not trying to argue that the Battle was as successful as the Ju 87 or Il-2, but rather that properly equipped with appropriately trained crews they could have provided similar results in certain mission sets to the other two types. As others have mentioned there was not one attack or bomber type that wasn’t vulnerable during the war when not provided with adequate fighter protection.
otis,
I can already see that we won’t ever begin to agree on this topic as I know from what perspective you are viewing the aircraft with, but I’ll attempt to explain my thinking regardless. First off saying that it was marginally better than the aircraft it replaced is disingenuous to say the least. Of course the notion of a single-engine bomber was soon obsolete, thus the aircraft was, through not fault of its own, left without a true mission. The RAF’s continued insistence on strategic bombing meant that the aircraft would never be truly re-roled into a battlefield attack type although the premise of the basic design meant it could have. Your comments regarding performance imply that no new engine was to be fitted. Had the aircraft been truly equipped with the necessary equipment for a battlefield attack role, then we can surmise it would have gotten a much larger engine (either a later Merlin or another type…many different engines were tested on the Battle to varying degrees of success. As mentioned the bomb aimer comes out of the aircraft with the new mission set so no weight penalty there. As someone else mentioned, there was a fair amount of time between the end of Battle production and the Hurricane being truly thrust into the fighter-bomber role. The last point regarding its lack of ability to escape also applies to all other bomber, attack types of the war.
I think some of you guys are still missing the point. I’m not claiming that the Battle was a war-winning design nor am I saying it could have served the RAF throughout the entirety of the war in any frontline role. My point is that it is an example of an aircraft that could have been more than it was, and the sound basic design would have permitted that. High level thinking in the RAF being what it was however this was not to be the case. The common (i.e. coffee table history book description) perception of the aircraft was that of an obsolete design that was nothing more than a failure. I disagree with that assessment and place more of the blame for the aircraft’s ultimate fate on a lack of innovation among the Air Staff. Hindsight is always 20/20, but the aircraft could have been turned into a useful design. The author does an excellent job of explaining this from a wide variety of different angles and perspectives. We shall agree to disagree.
Are those side fuselage hardpoints on the Ching-Kuo a new thing? I don’t recall ever seeing anything under the fuselage except for a pair of TC-2s or a drop tank.