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  • in reply to: Mi-8 "Hip" Discussion #2144738
    PhantomII
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    TR1,

    Then perhaps my confusion just lies with the designation? The Russian helicopters website specifically says the latest military variants are as follows:

    Mi-8MTV-5 (Mi-17V-5)
    Mi-8AMTSh (Mi-171Sh)

    Then it goes on to say that the Mi-8AMTSh-V is under development and that the Mi-8AMTSh-VA is being developed from that for use in the Arctic. No mention of any Mi-171A2.

    On the civilian side however, they list the following variants:

    Mi-8AMT (Mi-171)
    Mi-8MTV-1 (Mi-171A1)

    Mi-171A2 is listed under a separate entry, as the newest development.

    So the question remains…….is the Mi-171A2 related to the Mi-8AMTSh-V? I think they use the same VK-2500 engines…

    nastle,

    As for bombs, I’m almost certain the Hip family has carried them over the years. I don’t know what each of the six pylons is rated for, but I think at least 250-kg (551-lbs.) would be possible.

    in reply to: Mi-8 "Hip" Discussion #2144891
    PhantomII
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    Nice post! Once I figured out the two factory situation it became easier for me to differentiate the seemingly endless numbers of variants. I think the breakup of the USSR seemed to accelerate the confusion of variants due to the multiple plants, etc.

    Thus, I stand by what I said earlier………the Mi-8MTV-5 & Mi-8AMTSh are the current production military versions and the Mi-8AMTSh-V is the next in line. The Mi-171A2 (does it have an Mi-8 designation of any sort?) would appear to be the latest civilian configured Hip family member. Not sure about the military equivalent unless it’s the aforementioned AMTSh-V?

    in reply to: He shot down a Mig15 with a Sea Fury. #831375
    PhantomII
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    Not a fan of Paul Beaver?

    in reply to: Mi-8 "Hip" Discussion #2144952
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    Avionics limitations perhaps limit the number of B-8 pods to four normally?

    in reply to: Mi-8 "Hip" Discussion #2145174
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    in reply to: Mi-8 "Hip" Discussion #2145176
    PhantomII
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    Couple thoughts…

    First off, the Mi-171A2 is a civilian helo is it not?

    The Russian helicopters website lists the Mi-8MTV-5 & Mi-8AMTSh as the latest currently available military variants of the Hip. It does list the Mi-8AMTSh-V as being in development so perhaps this is just another name for the Mi-171A2?

    As for the saddle tanks, I had never noticed the difference in size on the Mi-8MT family, and this would seem to make perfect sense as to why you rarely see any stores on the inboard pylons although that Mexican (?) Hip seems to be carrying B-13 rocket pods on those locations. Perhaps just certain bulkier stores cannot be carried.

    I remember several years ago I asked about the various Russian ATGM varieties. It seemed to be the standard answer that the newer variants of the Hip family carry either AT-6 or AT-9 missiles in sets of four (for a total of 8). I am curious however…would sixteen be possible or is 8 the limitation based on avionics? Not that important I suppose, but just something I’m curious about. I suppose I could ask the same regarding the AAMs (SA-18s being the only missile I’ve heard referenced).

    Thanks for sharing all of the various photos!

    These are UB-32 pods, not the B-8, but it does beg the question…how much wider is the B-8 (or UPK-23) than the UB-32? Is there really no room?

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjJqpvr6bHWAhWIcRQKHb22BvgQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fengineeringrussia.wordpress.com%2Fpage%2F190%2F%3Fapp-download%3Dandroid&psig=AFQjCNEnDFscs8wWc_Vu1XeBrRS5hnEKDg&ust=1505930221554044

    Some interesting turrets on this….a defensive system perhaps?

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjL9q2G6rHWAhXJShQKHW0hBUQQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airliners.net%2Fphoto%2FRussia-Air-Force%2FMil-Mi-8AMTSh-V%2F2711872&psig=AFQjCNEnDFscs8wWc_Vu1XeBrRS5hnEKDg&ust=1505930221554044

    in reply to: German F-104 & F-4F #2154354
    PhantomII
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    A very interesting interview for those who haven’t watched it yet. The biggest thing I took away from it was that the F-104 certainly had many accidents but it wasn’t the disaster that many people seem to think and there were tons of contributing factors to cause the losses that weren’t necessarily the fault of the jet itself. It was a good aircraft in many ways.

    in reply to: Dunkirk film – Merged For General Updates And Chat #787368
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    Thanks!

    in reply to: Dunkirk film – Merged For General Updates And Chat #787384
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    Any idea which of those three Spits (thanks for the quick reply!) was at Legends this year?

    in reply to: BAe Hawk Questions #2154486
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    Yeah I just assume at this point that only the export variants had the wing pylons plumbed.

    That said I think the Hawk has had an interesting service life in the RAF (& RN) and used far outside of what Hawker Siddeley probably envisioned when they designed it.

    Anybody know any good reads on how they were used in the Air defense role and what years that was put into practice? I’d be especially keen to learn how they integrated with the Tornado (& Phantom?)

    in reply to: Dunkirk film – Merged For General Updates And Chat #787836
    PhantomII
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    What are the tail numbers (registration) for the three Spits in the movie?

    in reply to: Hispano Buchon Thread #787839
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    Who actually owns G-AWHK? Anyone know where I can find a good history on it?

    in reply to: Hispano Buchon Thread #787951
    PhantomII
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    The Buchon in the film Dunkirk was G-AWHK right?

    in reply to: BAe Hawk Questions #2155263
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    That second to last photo is pretty much what I had assumed. Looks like SNEB rockets, practice bombs, and the Aden gun pod were it. Thanks for helping me confirm it!

    Any idea if those pylons were ever plumbed/used for external tanks. I think they were on the export Hawk 50/60 series…just not sure about the RAF’s T.1/T.1A fleet.

    in reply to: Miss Velma P51 Landed in cornfield at Flying Legends #792181
    PhantomII
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    Random question, but the airplane landed facing the A505 didn’t it? Anyone have any photos after it was in the field that show the direction it was facing? I was there that day, and my assumption is the airplane was facing the road, but I just figured I’d ask here to clarify for sure.

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