When will the USN start to replace the super hornet?
2030 or so.
More on F-35B issues and solutions
From AvWeek:
“Nose wander in transonic maneuvers has been tackled with changes to control-surface scheduling and air-data calibration, and updated flight-control software was released at the end of the year. This is expected to also correct discrepancies between predicted and measured sideslip angles and control-surface loads. Engines with design changes to reduce screech and allow use of full augmentor are being installed.”
Cutting the F-35B would just increase costs and could create a wave of cancelations in the Lightning Orders. As it would case doubt over the entire program. In short its not going to happen……..
I would add their is no “will” in the US House and US Senate to cancel the F-35B.
Hell, they can’t even cancel the C-17 nor GE F136. Which, both Bush and Obama have tried to do for years.;)
Nonetheless, I am happy to agree to disagree on this one.:D
An alternate viewpoint might be that more -C’s are ordered.
Comments………..You mean from Bloggers (Including ELP)??? Which, are not Experts in the Field nor that have “Access” to the JSF Program. LOL
Curious. Do you have such access?
What Navy is that??? Would you care to enlighten us???:confused:
Seriously?
The USMC (nor US Army) would never invade the Chinese Mainland. Which, would be a near impossible task or at very least an extremely costly one. They may invade nearby islands or reinforce Taiwan or Japan.
Which would not require F-35B’s.
If the USMC is allowed to go to an all-F-35B force, and the USN can’t get enough F/A-18E/F and F-35C to fully equip its carrier wings, then yes… they would have to work out some arrangement.
The answer is negative. The Navy is not going to allow the -B to destroy its carrier decks (warping/spalling) and interrupt the carefully choreographed launch and recovery operations (FOD/spotting/timing) that is carrier aviation. Can you imagine the impact to operations caused having to inspect the deck for FOD (spalled antiskid) after every “high sortie rate” F-35B launch and recovery cycle? How often will you have to replace carrier decking due to heat damage?
The Navy is buying F/A-18’s at a pretty good rate – more than 120 new machines in the next few years. The Navy has options if the F-35(C in the Navy’s case) doesn’t work out, so filling carrier decks won’t be a problem if need be.
Scooter said:
Typical article from AviationWeek and very one sided. As it doesn’t provide any of the many benefits of the F-35B or STOVL Aircraft for that matter!
It looks like you didn’t enjoy the article… Did you read the comments?
That’s a very big gamble! As it assumes you have the luxury of time……Which, more than likely you don’t! 😮
You do understand that the Army already has a big “navy?” They will of course need the Navy to deploy, but unlike the Marines, the Army doesn’t mind the Navy or Air Force helping them with the logistics and fire support.
I guess you just don’t understand Carrier Warfare. As nobody would risk such a high value asset like an Aircraft Carrier so close to shore.
Again, a LHA/LPD/Aegis cruiser is not a high value asset? The battlespace needs to be prepped before the ARG can approach within striking distance. The CTF can racetrack around and support the landings and inshore battles just fine.
Do you think the USN during WWII operated Carriers within the Littorals to support Amphibious Invasion? No, they were of course far out to sea.
Um, not really. Check your history.
maus92-while this second there may be no IMMEDIATE threat of all out war, the fact is the US and China both base their ‘all out war’ scenarios on each other. As our planets populations increases, and our resources become scarce(including land), I fear this capability will be in high demand.
Marine ARG’s have their usefulness, but in an “all-out” war with China, do you think that the Marines could survive a landing and sustain their presence on the Chinese mainland? In WWII, the Marines were able to land on outlying islands that were not easily reinforced or resupplied. This scenario would not apply to China.
Politics:
– Air Force officers do not want UAVs. They are mainly combat pilots, who do not want be universally hated for killing the Top Gun fantasy. Just like they did not want the F-16 because it would take away money from their F-15 wonder child. Or the A-10, which they have tried to kill numerous times, and might now be turned into the first operational UCAV! Or missiles on a Predator, which they thought was a stupid idea, until the CIA showed them wrong. Or when they insist that real pilots should fly their UAVs, even though the Army has proven NCOs with some extra software can do it better and cheaper.
– Aircraft builders are not so biased, which is why Boeing, Northrop Grumman and General Atomics are investing so much of their own money into developing UAVs, even though the Air Force made no formal requests. They know this is where the real future of military aviation lies.
Some random points:
– Air-to-Air UCAVs will come. The Air Force will try to slow this process, like cancelling the J-UCAS, to protect the gold-plated JSF. The F-35 will however go the F-22 way, leaving a fighter gap that the Air Force will be forced to fill with UCAVs, a golden opportunity for Boeing or Northrop Grumman, although we know Lockheed Martin has done plenty of classified research on UAVs and might still surprise us.
– There will be little danger of UCAVs shooting down civilian airplanes, because most of the time ground controllers will have the time to approve the attack, just like modern day pilots usually request permission before engaging.
Sorry for the paraphrasing of your action-packed post….
The USN is taking a different approach to UAV’s, namely UCAV-N’s, which several models are in development, and might even make it to ship trials by the end of 2011. The Navy is not run by (fighter) pilots, and that is helping them to foster the development of real tactical UAV’s with industry. BTW, Top Gun is a Navy program…
While there is little danger of a UCAV shooting down a civilian aircraft, there is the danger of collision – pilots are required to “see and avoid” under FAA and ICAO rules. I find the collision scenario unlikely, but many civilian pilots are leery. A few months ago, a Fire Scout launched from Pax “strayed” into restricted / controlled airspace around Washington, aka the SFRA. Apparently there was talk about shooting down the malcontent, but operators were able to reestablish control of the UAV and retrieved it without further incident. Needless to say, it has been grounded until some software is rewritten.
F-35B behind in test points
The -B has completed only 7 of the required 40 vertical landing required before advancing to ship trials. Test flights will resume in January after various fixes are applied to the test aircraft to resolve issues with premature wear on auxiliary inlet door hinges. The fixes involve redesigned parts and modifications to flight control software to reduce sideslip in “semi-jet borne flight.”
E/F’s avionics suite is excellent. It allows the E/F to perform real time uploads of targeting data to PGMs from onboard sensors with the press of a button. That provides multiple kills of ground targets in a single pass. It will be the best ground attack performer until F-35. F-35 will beat out the E/F by adding automatic target recognition and the ability to differentiate between decoys and real targets.
As a flying SAM battery, E/F is also excellent. Despite the tricks its APG-79 can perform, I am not so enthusiastic about its ability to defeat a stealthy supersonic airplane designed for air dominance.
Not so fast – DTS is on the way for the Rhinos:
http://www.navair.navy.mil/newsreleases/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.view&id=4398
AF-4 flies
AF-4 (F-35A) makes the last test flight of the year.