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[QUOTE=kev35;1274521]So my understanding of that little scenario is that you, in the first instance, were guilty of trespass, or did you have Mr. Barratt’s specific permission to exercise your dog on that property?
Secondly you were guilty of not having your dog under proper control.
Bearing those two FACTS in mind, shall we now go on to discuss the matter of responsibility?
Regards,
What about the responsibity of the cat owner which was nil.
as it happens I had permission to be there.
[QUOTE=kev35;1274521]So my understanding of that little scenario is that you, in the first instance, were guilty of trespass, or did you have Mr. Barratt’s specific permission to exercise your dog on that property?
Secondly you were guilty of not having your dog under proper control.
Bearing those two FACTS in mind, shall we now go on to discuss the matter of responsibility?
Regards,
What about the responsibity of the cat owner which was nil.
as it happens I had permission to be there.
Or get a decent lead…
Yes a decent lead,I agree ,way back 3metre retractable leads were not available, they are now and I use one.
Or get a decent lead…
Yes a decent lead,I agree ,way back 3metre retractable leads were not available, they are now and I use one.
cats
I`ve read all the posts so far, and its obvious that cat lovers are distressed by the events related,I was too, one point is that I had permission from the land developers to walk my dog on their property, simply by phoning them, I also bought one of the new houses. My dog chased the cat as a cat chases a bird , rat or mouse. IN FACT THE CAT OWNER BEARS SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE EVENTS, could I have prevented the incident ? Yes, but at personal danger from the cat, which I wasnt prepared to do, some cats are diseased.
A lot of cats are killed by motoring accidents, how would you feel if your cat in the road caused a car to swerve and collided with pedestrians injuring or god forbid killing someone. It happens.
Cats should be prevented from roaming full stop, a responsible Cat owner should walk the Cat the same as a dog its not impossible, if you own a roaming Cat its a copout, get a grip and take responsibility, OR GET A DOG.
cats
I`ve read all the posts so far, and its obvious that cat lovers are distressed by the events related,I was too, one point is that I had permission from the land developers to walk my dog on their property, simply by phoning them, I also bought one of the new houses. My dog chased the cat as a cat chases a bird , rat or mouse. IN FACT THE CAT OWNER BEARS SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE EVENTS, could I have prevented the incident ? Yes, but at personal danger from the cat, which I wasnt prepared to do, some cats are diseased.
A lot of cats are killed by motoring accidents, how would you feel if your cat in the road caused a car to swerve and collided with pedestrians injuring or god forbid killing someone. It happens.
Cats should be prevented from roaming full stop, a responsible Cat owner should walk the Cat the same as a dog its not impossible, if you own a roaming Cat its a copout, get a grip and take responsibility, OR GET A DOG.
I sincerely hope you also had the decency to find, or at least attempt to find, the cat’s owner. Also to keep what I would personally consider to be a dangerous animal on its lead from that moment on.
That dog should have been destroyed, IMO.Having had one cat go missing for no apparent reason a number of years ago, I can well imagine the worry and grief suffered by the owners of that poor animal.
Sorry to go on, but I have absolutely no time whatsoever for irresponsible dog owners.
Jason
Should we destroy cats for killing birds. If yes I`m up for it, people who live in glasshouses etc?
Responsible cat owners should keep them under control, owning a cat seems to be a cop out, pretty little furry killers.
Many cats are killed by road traffic accidents, how many of those caused damage to cars or worse.
Don`t lecture on irresponsible dog owners, look at yourself!
I sincerely hope you also had the decency to find, or at least attempt to find, the cat’s owner. Also to keep what I would personally consider to be a dangerous animal on its lead from that moment on.
That dog should have been destroyed, IMO.Having had one cat go missing for no apparent reason a number of years ago, I can well imagine the worry and grief suffered by the owners of that poor animal.
Sorry to go on, but I have absolutely no time whatsoever for irresponsible dog owners.
Jason
Should we destroy cats for killing birds. If yes I`m up for it, people who live in glasshouses etc?
Responsible cat owners should keep them under control, owning a cat seems to be a cop out, pretty little furry killers.
Many cats are killed by road traffic accidents, how many of those caused damage to cars or worse.
Don`t lecture on irresponsible dog owners, look at yourself!
I sincerely hope you also had the decency to find, or at least attempt to find, the cat’s owner. Also to keep what I would personally consider to be a dangerous animal on its lead from that moment on.
That dog should have been destroyed, IMO.Having had one cat go missing for no apparent reason a number of years ago, I can well imagine the worry and grief suffered by the owners of that poor animal.
Sorry to go on, but I have absolutely no time whatsoever for irresponsible dog owners.
Jason
Dogs and cats have always been adversaries its just nature.
I had no pre knowledge of the errant cat, but if it had been at home or with its owner this would not have occured.
I understand cat lovers being upset by this sort of event, dogs need to to be free now and then, and cats.
nature rules.
The answer is not to let your cat roam, it also might not decimate the local wild bird population!
I sincerely hope you also had the decency to find, or at least attempt to find, the cat’s owner. Also to keep what I would personally consider to be a dangerous animal on its lead from that moment on.
That dog should have been destroyed, IMO.Having had one cat go missing for no apparent reason a number of years ago, I can well imagine the worry and grief suffered by the owners of that poor animal.
Sorry to go on, but I have absolutely no time whatsoever for irresponsible dog owners.
Jason
Dogs and cats have always been adversaries its just nature.
I had no pre knowledge of the errant cat, but if it had been at home or with its owner this would not have occured.
I understand cat lovers being upset by this sort of event, dogs need to to be free now and then, and cats.
nature rules.
The answer is not to let your cat roam, it also might not decimate the local wild bird population!
Cats
Many years ago I was walking my dog Olly (a Labrador) in a smallholding field which had been purchased by Mr Barret of helicopter fame, for housing development.
In the long vegetation a black cat appeared, upon which Olly shot off in pursuit, I shouted NOOO! but Olly being a Lab totally ignored me, they have their own agendas, the cat ran into a semi derelict greenhouse.
Olly ran in after it at full tilt, there was a loud crashing noise followed by cat screeming wails and dog in pain noises.
When I arrived on scene a stalemate was on, Olly had the cat in his jaws by the ribcage, the cat was draped around his head with all claws and teeth in use.
Olly had his eyes closed, one of the few times i`ve seen a Lab use its feeble brain!
Of course I shouted him to drop it, but that was not a really good idea as far as Olly was concerned.
He slowly opened one eye looking at me as if to say there is nothing else for it dad, and closed his powerfull jaws, crunching noises ensued and the cat went limp.
Olly spat it out, looked at me with a what do you know look, and calmly walked out of the greenhouse panting a lot and headed for home.
I had the decency to fetch a spade and buried the poor creature.
Advice for cats, run up a tree!
Olly also hated Chickens (unless cooked), but thats another story.
Cats
Many years ago I was walking my dog Olly (a Labrador) in a smallholding field which had been purchased by Mr Barret of helicopter fame, for housing development.
In the long vegetation a black cat appeared, upon which Olly shot off in pursuit, I shouted NOOO! but Olly being a Lab totally ignored me, they have their own agendas, the cat ran into a semi derelict greenhouse.
Olly ran in after it at full tilt, there was a loud crashing noise followed by cat screeming wails and dog in pain noises.
When I arrived on scene a stalemate was on, Olly had the cat in his jaws by the ribcage, the cat was draped around his head with all claws and teeth in use.
Olly had his eyes closed, one of the few times i`ve seen a Lab use its feeble brain!
Of course I shouted him to drop it, but that was not a really good idea as far as Olly was concerned.
He slowly opened one eye looking at me as if to say there is nothing else for it dad, and closed his powerfull jaws, crunching noises ensued and the cat went limp.
Olly spat it out, looked at me with a what do you know look, and calmly walked out of the greenhouse panting a lot and headed for home.
I had the decency to fetch a spade and buried the poor creature.
Advice for cats, run up a tree!
Olly also hated Chickens (unless cooked), but thats another story.
Guess what?
Has to be the Shackleton MR3 & MR2.
Much unloved beasts, never mind a feeble Merlin, listen to four Griffons in full song
I found this on you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPn65t7BQUk
Full frontal
Well, for those who are not jetaholics.
http://www.sa-transport.co.za/aircraft/avro/shackleton_p1722_pg_08_aad06.JPG