To return perhaps to earlier on in the thread i notice a lot of nasty things are being said about various “peace activists” vandalising aircraft. I am surprised the Hawk jet on the production line for indonesia has been mentioned.
It is my opinion that an aircraft which is to be used for illegal acts of war should not be protected from vandalism, i think it is our duty as citizens of the world to prevent such murders happening, and i have no problem if this involves spray painting an sr71 or some such.
However as an individual with a strong interest in the aircraft of world war 2 and their preservation i am horrified to hear about the acts of vandalism in museums to old aircraft which present no threat at all anymore, in the name of peace activism. I think education is the key-whatever side you’re on surely its important to preserve such artifacts as B29s or B52s as our duty to history-the way you interpret it on display is down to you. I find it hard to believe that a peace activist would see any a museum aircraft as a target. i am shocked. But i would like to assure you most of us “anti-war” types would never dream of such a thing
Just a few honest thoughts from a slightly shocked individual
Jay
Morning folks.
Regardless of moral and legal considerations, an SR-71 or even a Tornado, Hawk, F-15, you name it, are still historic as far as a museum is concerned and are considered (for the purposes of collections care, conservation and interpretation) just as important as the older aircraft.
I take it you are aware that the SR-71 was/is a reconnaissance aircraft? (I expect there’s some debate as to whether the F-12/A-12 was ever planned as an interceptor, but it certainly didn’t operate as such).
Our Sunderland was once used as a nightclub of sorts. And our B-17 by missionaries!
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From a professional interest point of view, who are the Architect, Consulting Engineer and main contractor……if that’s not a state secret :rolleyes:
If it hasn’t already been released to the press, I’m afraid I can’t really divulge. I would expect the information to be available fairly soon.
And yes, inevitably some former H1 aircraft will be outside until the main construction phase is complete. Rest assured wherever we can find space we will use it. This is why the IWM side of H2 is not currently accessible.
I won’t get into the argument of suspension, its too thorny!
There’s a Horsa glider currently under restoration that was actually someone’s caravan for a good few decades! As of now it still has all the fittings in it.
Just to confirm for everyone, that this applies to all H1 aircraft from now until around that date, as we are doing a final decant prior to AirSpace building work commencing. Huzzah!
there have been accidents at filling stations with mobiles (including one where the phone rang in some blokes front jeans pocket and ignited the fuel vapour from the tank – great balls of fire…).
Did you follow the link to Snopes.com? There’s no evidence of any such incidents that I’ve been able to find. I’m a firm supporter of the idea that its done
a) Due to the risk, no matter how small (why risk being the first station to go sky-high)
b) The interference with the pump electronics thing i.e. in case the petrol companies lost money.
At the end of the day if its petrol station or airfield policy, it doesn’t really matter how groundless the claims are; its their site, their rules. I don’t agree with misleading the public with ‘examples’ of incidents though.
Jonathon O inocent one, the tales of woe that could be told of conservation staff that grew horns given a tractor & tow bar.
[fingers in ears]I’m not listening! I can’t hear you! Laaaalaaa![/fingers in ears]
I was being corporate and diplomatic; I haven’t heard about any specific ****-ups with aircraft movement 😉 For the sake of my blood pressure I’d rather not either!
[edit] – ^ the censored word above was a phrase in the common vernacular (ie ‘male chicken’!) and not nearly as rude as it now appears!
My hunch would be car, or possibly even marine clock, but are there any markings on it at all?
Good thinking Rebecca. We could do with some aviation related bits and bobs to spice things up over and above the inevitable “My Little Pony” offerings. And I don’t mean Transformers!
Off-hand, it looks too curved at the head to be 109e, but I could be wrong. I certainly don’t have any suggestions of my own at first look. I’d have a look at our 109 but I have to get on the road I’m afraid.
Adrian, I’ll have to have a look next time I’m in H4! I would hope its been repaired whether it was in-house accidental (which I’ve yet to hear of, new though I am!) or third-party damage.
OK guys, the Comet is actually already under DAS restoration, and the Hastings is to be repainted in its 47 Sqn Berlin Airlift scheme (I have no details on further conservation measures for the Hastings at the moment). No news on the Vulcan as yet.
Hope this helps,
J
As Airspace is upon us all, I was wondering where and when the Larger exibits will be painted (if they are to be at all). for example Aircraft like the Hastings which is looking a bit run down at the moment, will it be painted once in the new hanger or outside? or will it just be little touch ups on the paint work when there is five mins fee before it opens? I was just wondering as there are several of the larger aircratf which will not fit in to the paint shop in hanger 5 that look like they could do with a refresh before they are ready. Vulcan, Comet, and hastings really. as it would be nice to get some pictures of them done up smart before they are locked away. cheers
Hello (sort of) from Duxford! To be honest I’m not familiar enough with the conservation schedule to tell you the if/when/how of the larger aircraft. I will ask the guys in the morning for you.
I’m sorry you’ve had a frustrating time of it. Once AirSpace is completed we should have a less fluid situation re aircraft placement. It’s been particularly this way in the last 12 months or so because of a delay on the construction work for AirSpace; there was an initial decanting followed by a constant juggling act to keep both IWM and private aircraft under cover into the autumn and winter.
Add to that the ‘star’ aircraft that have been cycling through the Conservation hangar and I can see it would be difficult for regular visitors.
That’s it pretty much. The fewer aircraft at the mercy of the elements, the better. Also don’t forget that around half the aircraft are suspended, so it shouldn’t be quite as cramped as it looks. There are also mezzanine/gallery levels to allow good views.