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  • in reply to: The (even more) merged Vulcan thread once again. #1265915
    JonathanF
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    I don’t see why HLF drawing a line in the financial sand is “madness”. Those supporting the project might see it as “only another £250k to save the a/c AND a multi-million £ investment”, but how many more chunks of cash would HLF have to stump up after that? It might indeed be a big waste of money if the project sinks, but if it does, it won’t have hinged upon the HLF decision.

    What’s the old adage? Something about good money after bad…

    in reply to: BAPS Meeting Cosford 5th August #1266348
    JonathanF
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    Just to point out, in case you can edit it, that the subject of the thread title is not BAPC, but in fact “BAPS”.

    in reply to: "Enjoy". Aaarghh! #1269411
    JonathanF
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    You may be enjoying it now but just remember, someone, somewhere is tired of putting up with her nonsense.

    You got that email forward too, eh?

    in reply to: East Fortune Air Display 29th July #1272431
    JonathanF
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    Don’t suppose anyone managed to snap the Typhoon did they? I have several grey pixels with two orange pixels at the back.

    in reply to: Desert Spitfire Erk Bags !!!! #1276588
    JonathanF
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    On Spitfire VB AB910, currently still flying with the BBMF….

    She must be exhausted.

    in reply to: Duxford Thursday 29th June heads up. #1312870
    JonathanF
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    If you need that explained to you, then i suggest read it again very slowly.

    I W M Dux.

    No need for that tone. It’s apparent that you need something explaining; there are several current and former employees of IWM on these boards, two of which might reasonably have thought you were responding directly to them when you talked of “offending”.

    in reply to: Hunter F6 to be sunk #1313013
    JonathanF
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    Was this the same place where the Blackpool Vulcan was being mooted as diving scenery at one point?

    in reply to: Cosford Cold War exhibition #1313589
    JonathanF
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    There is certainly an argument that the museum “arms race” of competing big capital projects is not a sustainable way to run things, and that it sidelines the exhibits in favour of increased visitor figures, and then leaves the museum with the maintenance bill (and probably debt) afterwards.

    It seems that once you’ve put yourself out there as a “top” museum, you lock yourself into this cycle, and you have to fight as hard as possible for slices of the money “pie” that can go towards active conservation (restoration) and preventative conservation (inc. a proper museum building and storage), as well as a good amount for interpretation media (text, video, interactives etc). But the lion’s share will be drained away on other costs, whilst the money earmarked for the above is whittled away to keep the project on budget and on time.

    Whatever the rights and wrongs of the system that Cosford, Duxford et al find themselves working within, if their respective developments attract significantly increased visitor figures and improve the situation for both exhibits and for meaningful interpretation of them, then the projects will have been worth it. The time to exert influence on the planning of these is over, now all we can do is wait and see, and criticise when everything has been in place for 6 months, a year, and so on. Provide constructive and well-argued feedback at that stage, and you will have a small part to play in the next ten years afterwards.

    in reply to: Duxford Thursday 29th June heads up. #1314163
    JonathanF
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    Oh no, don’t do that, it’s not a battle, well I hope it’s not.
    It makes a change to have a good lively intelligent debate rather than a brawl.

    Bomberboy

    I have to agree that of all of the OMFG DUKSFORD SUXORS!!!!11111 type threads, this is becoming the most coherent and well argued. But considering the competition, it’s not the achievement it could be.

    JonathanF
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    Yes James, I accept that IWM Lambeth is probably the best museum on The Great War, it’s a shame therefore that they don’t take the Harry Tate there and display it in some sort of environment where it has context, instead of a meaningless space filler in Air/Space or whatever it’s called.
    In fact if the Biff and the RE8 and the CMB could be re-located, it’d save me the need to ever visit Duxford again.

    Andy

    I would urge you to reserve judgement on whether it’s a “meaningless space filler” until the 2007 opening. There’s been a hell of a lot of work on the interpretation for the aircraft and the themed displays, and I don’t think one should let a personal dislike of suspension get in the way of a fair criticism. When the place actually opens, preferably.

    I’m increasingly of the opinion that it should be renamed “AirSpace Or Whatever It’s Called”, since it seems to be the popular name for it around here. Or perhaps the whole place could be renamed “IWM Sarcastically Dismissive Epithet”?

    in reply to: Imperial War Museum North – Bomber Command Exhibition #1315090
    JonathanF
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    But doesn’t stop them virtually ignoring the events of 1914-18.

    There is of course the Land Warfare Hall, but I take your point as things stand. This will hopefully be addressed via aspects of AirSpace, and not just the RE8 and DH9. The problem will be that the approach is thematic, not chronological, so there is unlikely to be a traditional treatment of the 14-18 air war; the information and objects will be more dispersed than that e.g. small arms, rankin dart, and Hales bomb in the area devoted to the development of aerial weaponry, or Western Front aerial photography in the intelligence display. Just examples, but hopefully you see where I’m coming from.

    in reply to: Imperial War Museum North – Bomber Command Exhibition #1315099
    JonathanF
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    Visited IWMN last Saturday found it interesting but it isnt what i would describe as a museum as such.Its more of an opportunity to listen and learn about REAL life experiences ,to see how war and conflict effected the ordinary Joe/Josephine Soap .

    Yes there are some historically interesting artifacts and displays…

    That is a description of a museum – a contemporary museum that places military history in a more social history context so that the average visitor can better understand the subject and its significance. This results in fewer real historical things on display, which for those of us who have already taken it upon ourselves to learn something of the history, is often a disappointment.

    The approach has its merits, however I do personally I think that you can still use the “human” angle, but that it is far better served by objects than a reliance on multimedia. The trend is still currently “light” on real things, but it should swing back the other way in the next five years or so, I think. Failing that, more open storage, where those visitors that are educated in a particular subject can skip straight to the “things”. Temporary exhibitions are another way to add levels of complexity and interest to what can otherwise be quite superficial displays, in an academic or specialist sense at least.

    in reply to: London Science Museum – Aviation #1316144
    JonathanF
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    The whole museum is great, to be fair. The space section is also interesting. Don ‘t miss out the national history one, next door.

    On the other bank of the river, the War museum has some neat stuff as well. A V1 and a V2, a Spit, can’t remmber all…

    I think you mean the Natural History Museum.

    JonathanF
    Participant

    I positively hate the pro America hang the rest attitude of Duxford

    There’s no such attitude, as evidenced by the £26 million they’re dropping on a new flagship exhibition building dedicated to the story of British aviation. There will always be a focus upon the big projects during the planning, lead-in, establishment, and follow-up periods, but the focus has already switched from AAM to AirSpace.

    Which is not to say that the story of the US(A)AF in Britain should be ignored.

    in reply to: IWM Lancaster comes out in the sun..but not for long #1317367
    JonathanF
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    whats stopping the IWM from making more of its own exhibits. Four engines turning on the HP Hastings , or a ground run from the Oxford would be good places to start.

    This has been addressed in several recent threads. It’s a question of responsibilities and standards as they pertain to a museum rather than a collection.

    After all once the Airspeed Oxford is suspended in the new Air Space building its roll as an educational research subject is going to be somewhat negated.

    For the enthusiast, I agree that it’s a loss. For the wider visiting public, far less so, and in terms of an educational “roll”, it is far from negated. It will be quite possible to interpret for the visitor the aircraft’s historical role, service history, unique technology etc, without people clambering inside or seeing the props turn. This will require more than the old “name rank number” style caption boards, but more sophisticated information and media are on the way.

    If you mean “research subject” as in analysis/study of the individual airframe, what more is there to learn that hasn’t been discovered? If, being honest, the basis of your argument is that you would prefer simply to have a closer look at that particular airframe (which is absolutely fair enough), then you must understand that your needs have to be weighed by IWM against those of all the other visitors, who may not be enthusiasts or experts. It’s a question of cost/difficulty vs benefit.

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