I’d say it was dead in the water.
I still await with interest your organisation’s business plan on how you intend to fund the project.
And no I don’t want the ‘it’s all happening behind the scenes’ bit trotted out, because it isn’t.

And while you’re about it, perhaps you’ll explain how you intend to get Airbus Industries to offer the engineering support you’ll need.

Cheers
Andy

Seems you know a hell of a lot about things Andy – BA engineer are we?

Explain to me how you can put a business plan together when a) this is not a business, it is a charitable group / association / campaign – whatever you want to classify it as. Also, explain how you can put it together when the biggest backbone to the plan, that being financials, cannot be given because BA wont even allow SCG to perform a technical survey into the cost to RTF. Gives off the impression BA having something to hide!

With regard to you saying its not behind the scenes – are you a shadow in the SCG Core-Team or something? You really do know VERY little about this group and make rash assumptions with no evidence to back it up.

SCG do not necessarily need the fundamental input from Airbus that you think – had you of shown an interest in the group / spoken to those involved – you would know that. The engineering support will come from those outside of Airbus, like current and ex-BA engineers who are just itching to get their hands on the plane again and get stuck into it – it was the highlight of their careers after all.

This group has been going for 2 years now… all of a sudden this poll means they can launch a public appeal? dont make me laugh! What have they been doing all this time?

You also obviously don’t qualify to make this statement since you’ve not made yourself known to the group to give any tips / advice. We’ve been doing everything possible to rally support and speak to everyone out there in the Concorde world. Just because its not readily documented does not mean it is dead in the water!

Concorde wins the hear of the nation!

Save Concorde Group, the campaign appealing to British Airways to return a Concorde to flight for heritage purposes, are thrilled with the outcome of the Great British Design Quest, in which Concorde was voted the UK’s favourite design icon.

Concorde is unique in many ways: the speed, the revolutionary design and engineering, the beautiful shape, and the admiration that she has attracted – perhaps more than any other aircraft. She was, of course, not only the world’s only successful commercial supersonic airliner but also undoubtedly one of the greatest aviation achievements of all time. Although the aircraft was an Anglo-French creation, she remains a potent source of pride in this country.

This winning vote shows what Concorde still means to the British public. It underlines how viable a return to flight could be: the costs might be high, but the value would be infinite. Concorde could still be a peerless ambassador for the UK. On Wednesday, the world watched as Australia opened the Commonwealth Games in Melbourne with a sense of style and pride in all things Australian; it makes one think what effect Concorde would have performing a history-making flypast in the opening ceremony of the 2012 London Olympics.

Thanks to the outcome of this design contest, the Save Concorde Group (SCG) is renewing its appeal to British Airways and the Government to return a Concorde to flight. The group believes that they could meet this challenge without any financial input from British Airways. Whilst the SCG may be home to Concorde enthusiasts from all walks of life, they have many ex-Concorde personnel working alongside them to offer their expertise and knowledge in the predicted work needed to make a Concorde airworthy again. Therefore, they continue to press British Airways to release the information behind their investigation into returning Concorde to flight for heritage purposes and we seek the opportunity to work with all interested parties to bring this marvellous ambassador for British achievement back to the skies.

Clever use of PR. If it helps get the thing dragged indoors the histrionics will have been worthwhile.

Moggy

That is exactly the purpose behind what they’ve done!

Checkout this discussion in another thread – in Historical Aircraft or something like that.

I think you are all being a little bit self-opinionated in your comments here.

Save Concorde Group are by no means a pie-in-the-sky campaign. If any of you care to investigate what these guys are up to you – you will see that they have accredited current and ex-BA Concorde engineers working with them in the various things they are doing. Their main objective is a Return to Flight, which when the ex and current BA people thing it can happen, then I think they would know. However, it seems their priority is to get her under cover which is what the people down at AF seem to be forgetting to do.

It seems they were very interested to have all the glory of Alpha-Foxtrot being returned to its birthplace at Filton, but no concrete plans are in place to ensure she is put under cover, therefore resulting in what’s happened.

Also, if Airbus apparently conduct weekly inspections, it begs the question why was this not picked up on sooner!?

The hole is on the leading edge of the aircraft. If any of you know the design of Concorde, you will know that this is easily replaceable as it is bolt-on. For a statement of “the plane is suffering from cancer” to be made, I think the validity of the expertise needs to be questioned.

Whether or not this damage was sustained whilst the plane was in service or on the ground is irrelevant because it is easily repairable. The issue here is that the Bristol Aero Collection clearly have no adequate plans to ensure Concorde is placed, even under a temporary cover. From reading the forums at SCG, they have tried on several occasions to engage in dialogue with BAC to help them raise funds and draw up some initiatives to get Concorde under cover but everytime, they have snubbed these attempts. Clearly there is serious mismanagement here because there is no management team in place for AF to steer any fundraising initiatives towards the target of placing Concorde in a dedicated under cover facility. Apparently, not only was a management team but also a plan, was in the process of being put together at the time of delivery of AF almost 2 years ago, however to date, very little has happened or else the elements would not be seeping into the airframe.

It seems that on looking at the forums and talking to various enthusiasts and reading the media reports, ex-BA and current BA engineers who worked on Concorde are crying out to assess the aircraft and from what I see, SCG are in the process of putting a team together to present to BA in the next few days.

Therefore, do not diminsh what these people are doing – they are clearly identifying the growing need for this airframe to be undercover. It most certainly does not rule out an RTF and this very much remains a focus. They have identified all the facts and are not, as people think, acting irrationally.