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  • in reply to: FW-190 turning abilities #1239878
    Monsun
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    Tim

    Thanks for your reply. I thought the ‘berk’ you mentioned might have been someone I knew!

    The incident I was referring to took place at Wittering on 22/11/44 and involved Bf 109G TP814. Shortly before getting airborne from the grass strip the port oleo support strut broke and the aircraft cartwheeled. It came to rest the right way up looking extremely bent. Thankfully the pilot was unhurt.

    Peter

    in reply to: FW-190 turning abilities #1164974
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    Cotteswold

    This is going slightly off topic but I was interested when you mentioned that you missed out on a flight in a Bf 109.

    Was this at AFDU in late 1944 by any chance?

    Peter

    in reply to: FW190 in British markings at North Weald 1942? 43? #1183349
    Monsun
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    Have just re-read DaveF68’s post earlier in this thread and he stated that PM679 was at Farnborough before going to AFDU but that it didn’t fly with RAE until 2/7/43, or one day after your contact left!

    I wonder if the station ORB (which should be at the National Archives) would give a definite date. You would think that an Fw 190 turning up might get a mention.

    Peter

    in reply to: FW190 in British markings at North Weald 1942? 43? #1183665
    Monsun
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    Not sure if I’m allowed to mention this but about six years ago I did a book on the Fw 190 for Airlife (Combat Legend series).

    We included about a dozen photos of Faber’s 190 after it had been painted up as MP499, plus two of PE882 and one of PN999. There was also a nice one of PM679 flying low alongside a P-47D of the 4th FG.

    PE882 was w/o 13/10/44 in a crash that killed F/L E.R. Lewendon of 1426 Flt. The last record of PN999 that I found was a report of it being in store at 47 MU Sealand in November 1947.

    Peter

    in reply to: FW190 in British markings at North Weald 1942? 43? #1184449
    Monsun
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    Regarding the identity of the Fw 190 I agree with DaveF68 that it is PM679.

    A few years ago I wrote a book that looked at testing WWII single-engined fighters and during my research was privileged to meet and interview Len Thorne who, after a tour on Spitfires, spent three years at AFDU flying with the likes of Allan Wright, Wimpy Wade and Bill Waterton. One of his jobs was to take a captured Fw 190 ‘on tour’ to various stations so that it could be seen at close quarters and flown in practice dogfights. This was in PM679 which Len regarded as ‘his aeroplane’.

    The tour commenced in early August 1943 and lasted about three months. He flew to many bases including North Weald, Hornchurch, Kenley, Biggin Hill and Tangmere. There were also trips further afield to Ibsley and Exeter and even as far as Eshott in Northumberland. Len normally flew with an escort of two Spitfires but this was increased to four after he was nearly shot down over Hornchurch. The squadron C.O. involved didn’t open fire but Len admitted to being quite scared!

    He also did comparative trials between PM679 and Spitfire XIV RB179 on 18/3/44. His last flight in PM679 was 24/6/44 but shortly after take off he had a major engine failure and only just managed to get it back on the airfield. It appears PM679 did not fly again and was used for spares for PE882 and PN999.

    Len ended up with 80 sorties in the 190 amounting to around 100 hours so he must have had more time on the 190 than any other British pilot.

    Sadly I have just discovered that Len died a few weeks ago at the age of 88.

    Hope this is of interest

    Peter

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