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June 2, 2005 at 2:06 pm in reply to: Aircraft You've Been On #602855

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Boeing 727 (United)
Boeing 737-3, -5, -7, -8 (Various…)
Boeing 747 (TWA, United)
Boeing 757 (United)
Boeing 767 (don’t remember)
Boeing 777 (United)

Airbus A319 (United)
Airbus A320 (various)
Airbus A300 (Chinese carrier… forgot which one)
Airbus A330-300 (Air Canada)
Airbus A340-300 (Air France, China Southwest)

DC10-30 (United)
MD11 (China Eastern)
Super 80 (American)

June 2, 2005 at 1:55 pm in reply to: Emirates, Qatar Airways to place orders for up to 120 aircraft #602904

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Amazing if true… but I will wait until Paris to be thrilled or saddened about the Qatar order.

June 2, 2005 at 7:56 am in reply to: Paris Air Show // June 2005 #603208

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Thanks for the ideas, Preston. I looked at hotels.com (prices for the Kyriad CDG were €76), but when I went to book on kyriad.fr, the price was €170. SO: anyone know how hotels.com is? Trustworthy/I won’t get suck in the worst room of the hotel?

Thanks again!

June 1, 2005 at 12:44 pm in reply to: Paris Air Show // June 2005 #604196

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I’m in Nancy right now and was wondering if anyone had any ideas for where to stay in Paris. I’m actually studying abroad in Nancy, so I won’t be arriving until Friday night.

So out of curiosity, what do you you all think of these (found on hotels.com):

1) Kyriad le Bourget
2) Kyriad Prestige Roissy Cdg
3) Kyriad La Villette

I’m mainly interested in getting to a metro station easily… I’d prefer a clean, orderly hotel, but am open to suggestions. A friend suggested Kyriad from prior experiences; hence the Kyriad list above.

May 11, 2005 at 1:27 pm in reply to: JAL to order 7E7's #620774

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Somewhat interesting, given China Southern likes the A32x… they planning to get rid of them?

May 10, 2005 at 2:53 am in reply to: JAL to order 7E7's #621351

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JAL firms up its orders:

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q2/nr_050509g.html

May 6, 2005 at 5:15 pm in reply to: OSL-LHR-ORD March 17. #421201

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I know I’m late in this… but filet mignon on a UAL flight? Does every overseas flight come with such good meals? This came after UAL didn’t offer peanuts to passengers on an ORD – MIA flight…

May 6, 2005 at 3:04 pm in reply to: LOT MAY buy Boeing 787 #623770

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Got another article:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/223105_boeinglot06.html

May 6, 2005 at 12:01 am in reply to: Official: NW orders 18+50 787s #623946

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Not that you guys couldn’t go to the Boeing site for yourselves, but here anyhow:

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q2/nr_050505g.html
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/photorelease/q2/pr_050505g.html

May 2, 2005 at 6:32 pm in reply to: Airbus continues to complain about Boeings AI win #664124

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Still doesn’t say whether the deal is finalized — has the government approved?

May 2, 2005 at 6:32 pm in reply to: Airbus continues to complain about Boeings AI win #706633

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Still doesn’t say whether the deal is finalized — has the government approved?

April 26, 2005 at 5:10 pm in reply to: Air India to select widebodies today… #679222

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9 abreast is not a standard… Boeing has modified the interior arrangement to meet AI’s needs.
Of course other operators may chose 9 abreast also, but its far from standard. 8 abreast I think is what we’ll see in most 787s

Gotcha. I was thinking that the wider cross-section of the 787 will be most economically served by a 9-abreast rather than the A330/340/350’s 8-abreast.

April 26, 2005 at 5:10 pm in reply to: Air India to select widebodies today… #723217

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9 abreast is not a standard… Boeing has modified the interior arrangement to meet AI’s needs.
Of course other operators may chose 9 abreast also, but its far from standard. 8 abreast I think is what we’ll see in most 787s

Gotcha. I was thinking that the wider cross-section of the 787 will be most economically served by a 9-abreast rather than the A330/340/350’s 8-abreast.

April 26, 2005 at 4:22 pm in reply to: Air India to select widebodies today… #679406

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Ok, here are the fuselage cross section widths in inches

B787= 224 (according to latest information from Boeing)
A330= 208

So obvisouly the 787 as it stand has the advantage in how many can be seated abreast.
Airbus realy has no grounds to complain. AI asked for 9 abreast.. Boeing said they can deliver this. Airbus cannot.

Simple.

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Also it would seem you can fit 9 abreast in an A330:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/212240/L/

But thats a charter config and no way would AI want that kind of config for their mainline scheduled services!
I think thats what tipped the balance. The 787 will take 9 abreast with more space per seat than the A330.
I think its a simple case of a new plane outgunning the A330, Airbus’ cashcow after the A320 series.
Its the same as when the A330 simply outclassed the 767 from every angle. New beats old.

Won’t Airbus revert to the “8-abreast is ideal; no passenger is one seat away from an aisle” if Boeing pulls a 9-abreast as standard?

April 26, 2005 at 4:22 pm in reply to: Air India to select widebodies today… #723422

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Ok, here are the fuselage cross section widths in inches

B787= 224 (according to latest information from Boeing)
A330= 208

So obvisouly the 787 as it stand has the advantage in how many can be seated abreast.
Airbus realy has no grounds to complain. AI asked for 9 abreast.. Boeing said they can deliver this. Airbus cannot.

Simple.

EDIT:
Also it would seem you can fit 9 abreast in an A330:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/212240/L/

But thats a charter config and no way would AI want that kind of config for their mainline scheduled services!
I think thats what tipped the balance. The 787 will take 9 abreast with more space per seat than the A330.
I think its a simple case of a new plane outgunning the A330, Airbus’ cashcow after the A320 series.
Its the same as when the A330 simply outclassed the 767 from every angle. New beats old.

Won’t Airbus revert to the “8-abreast is ideal; no passenger is one seat away from an aisle” if Boeing pulls a 9-abreast as standard?
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