Not a good time for the classic jet world what with the Gnat crash and Midair’s problems. Im guessing the collection never made money and was propped up by the groups other activities? One issue is that the number of experienced, current pilots must be getting less each year. Even with something that was once so common like the Jet Provest will start lacing experienced pilots soon. Are all the aircraft at Coventry (shak/nimrod excluded) under CAF’s ownership, particularly the likes of the Gemini, Fleet etc?
I more worried for the likes of the DC-6’s, Twin-pin, Pembroke and Dak than the flyers. The Proctor belongs at Shuttleworth, but they already have a (loaned) Anson. Can’t think of anybody in the uk, except the St Athan operation who are likely to have the experience to take on the jet flyers.
Free, yes FREE tickets now available for the Goodwood event on 15/9 https://grrc.goodwood.com/battle-of-britain/battle-of-britain-day-flypast#zGuA9iPXLWjkollh.97
Lets hope for good weather and serviceability!
aircraft listed are
Supermarine Spitfire Mk Ia N3200 (G-CFGJ) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk Ia P9374 (G-MKIA) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk Ia X4650 (G-CGUK) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk Ia AR213 (G-AIST)
United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk IIa P7350
United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk LF Vb AB910
United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk IX SL633
United States of America
Supermarine Spitfire Mk IX MK732 (PH-OUQ) Netherlands
Supermarine Spitfire Mk IXe TD314 (G-CGYJ) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk IXb MH434 (G-ASJV) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk IX TA805 (G-PMNF) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk IX MK356
United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk VIII MV154 (D-FEUR)Germany
Supermarine Spitfire Mk LF Vb EE602 (G-IBSY) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk LF Vb EP120 (G-LFVB) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk Vb BM597 (G-MKVB) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk IXe RR232 (G-BRSF) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk IXe PL344 (G-IXCC) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire TR8 MT818 (G-AIDN)
United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire T9 MJ627 (G-BMSB)
United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire TR9 MJ772 (D-FMKN) Germany
Supermarine Spitfire T9 ML407 (G-LFIX)
United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire TR9 SM520 (G-ILDA)
United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire T9 PV202 (G-CCCA)
United Kingdom
Supermarine Seafire Mk IIIc PP972 (G-BUAR) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk XVIe TE184 (G-MXVI) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk XVI RW382 (G-XVIA) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire PR Mk XI PL965 (G-MKXI) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire LF XVIe TE311
United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk XVIe TD248 (G-OXVI) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire PR XIX PS853 (G-RRGN) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire Mk XVIIIe TP280 (D-FSPT) Germany
Supermarine Spitfire Mk XIVe MV268 (G-SPIT) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire FR XVIIIe SM845 (G-BUOS) United Kingdom
Supermarine Seafire Mk XVII SX336 (G-KASX) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire FR XVIIIe SM845 (G-BUOS) United Kingdom
Supermarine Spitfire PR XIX PS853 (G-RRGN) United Kingdom
Hawker Hurricane Mk I/IIa P3717 (G-HITT)
United Kingdom
Hawker Hurricane Mk IIb BE505 (G-HHII)
United Kingdom
Hawker Hurricane Mk IIc DR393/P3351 (F-AZXR) France
Hawker Hurricane Mk IIc PZ865
United Kingdom
Hawker Sea Hurricane Mk 1b Z7015 (G-BKTH) United Kingdom
Hawker Hurricane Mk X AE977/P3886 (G-CHTK) United Kingdom
Hawker Hurricane Mk IIc R4118 (G-HUPW)
United Kingdom
plus the Blenhiem
I guess it depends if you have a car or not? You have the Science Museum in South Kensington, London. It has about 25 aircraft including Hurricane, Spitfire plus lots of early aircraft. Others are Brooklands museum in surrey. Here you will see a Wellington, Hurricane and post war aircraft with lots of genuine historical buildings. There is also The Naval aircraft museum at Yeovilton, about 2-3 hours drive from London. Here you will see Swordfish, hellcat,Avenger,Seafury, Firefly etc plus lots of post war naval aircraft.
In London there is the Churchill War rooms, part of the IWM. This is part underground war HQ and part exhibition on Churchill. Plus there is HMS Belfast, genuine WW2 cruiser that also served in Korea. Lots to see, you just need time.
I pop into Hendon when I am working in the area, maybe 3-4 times a year for a hour, or two, each time. If there was a Duxford-esque charge (apart from parking) I would only visit every 5 years or when something big happened. When I visit I normally buy something in the cafe, and sometimes the shop, that brings in income they would not otherwise get. Duxford is far too expensive, combined with fuel it would be a £50 day out, admission should be about £10 IMHO. Most of my visits were when Helitech was held there and is you registered as a visitor the museum was free.
If we are talking oldest in regular scheduled passenger then it has to be a Dakota. I think Buffalo still operate Hay River to Yellowknife with a Dak. There was/is a New Zealand company also operating daks? As for turbo props are there are pax F-27’s still flying? Indonesia is probably the best bet? As for jets I think its a Kenyan DC-9, the 4th one built, 5Y-XXB
I would like to see a book on UK involvement in both Gulf Wars in the same format of ‘Falklands-the air war’. The ‘phoney war’ has also always fascinated me and there seems to be little on that as far as I have seen. Trouble is books are just so expensive now so i rely on my local library’s excellent aviation collection.
That makes sense, the RAFM website shows it owned by Richard Wilsher.
Saw a ex Chanex Herald cockpit outside parkhouse’s place at Booker today, is this VPN?
I know Old warden is a rural venue so people go out of their way to view from outside. Sideslip what do you expect the c50,000 inhabitants of Farnborough do next year when most of them will be able to see the airshow from their houses, or from a short walk away? Should we all shield our eyes or stay indoors.
Viewing from the outside is as old as airshows, and has many reasons. The cost is probably not the main one. People are often pressed for time and will just watch for a hour or two on the way to something else. As has been said they may just be passing by. The event maybe sold out. The odd one will be photographers, or spotters but the vast majority will be joe public, and the majority of those will have come less than 5 miles..
I know Old warden is a rural venue so people go out of their way to view from outside. Sideslip what do you expect the c50,000 inhabitants of Farnborough do next year when most of them will be able to see the airshow from their houses, or from a short walk away? Should we all shield our eyes or stay indoors.
Viewing from the outside is as old as airshows, and has many reasons. The cost is probably not the main one. People are often pressed for time and will just watch for a hour or two on the way to something else. As has been said they may just be passing by. The event maybe sold out. The odd one will be photographers, or spotters but the vast majority will be joe public, and the majority of those will have come less than 5 miles..
Foe me it would be nice to have an idea of what the future plans are for the collection. It has been getting on for 20 years since the hey days of the open days and the collection being accessible. Since then there has been nothing in the way of additions and pretty much zero public access. Is there any long term plan to move the collection on in terms of access, increasing the collection or even changing location? Back in the 80’s there were still a large number of Navy hangars on the other side (7 looking on GE) are these now with the museum?
aaah Britain’s hidden and forgotten museum! Unless you went to the regular events in the 80’s and 90’s your screwed! Wroughton was set up by John Bagley, a real enthusiast. He them moved on. Ross Sharp was also very pro open events and then he departed and the Science museum almost seemed embarrassed by the place. This place could have become the Duxford of the south!
I have read hundreds of pages of ORB’s at Kew and have never seen reference to radio call signs in the ORB. Individual aircraft are identified by a code letter and mostly a serial too. Im sure there were callsigns, at that range comms would have been by morse code.
rob
This aircraft served with 27 and 60 squadrons in the 1920’s, both were based in India.
Rob
Looks hell of alot better than when I saw it at Chino in 1992, what a rarity.