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  • in reply to: Davis-Monthan A.F.B Arizona #1046244
    farnboroughrob
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    What basically happens at DM is that the newer arrivals are stored for possable reuse or sale abroad. For example the B-1’s are in store and can be reactivated in 60 days, they have done this recently as attrition replacements. As newer F-15/F-16/F-18 arrive the older ones are parted out. DM actually saves US tax payers billions in replacement parts as they are taken off aircraft as and when needed. The C-5’s for example are time expired but parts like the elevators, and flaps were in demand for the upgrade program. Once the aircraft are no longer needed for spares, or are completely stripped then they are either scraped on site or sold off to local yards. I think they now restrict this to non operational types after somebody tried to sell F-14 spares to Iran a couple of years ago.
    The scrap yards are almost like museums themselves but are not acessable. Amoungst the more vintage items are KC-97, C-117 ,F-86, B-57, F-106, P-2, S-2, F-8, T-33, HH-34, HU-16, C-118 and one yard with 100+ H-34 (Wessex to you and me!).

    in reply to: Davis-Monthan A.F.B Arizona #1047515
    farnboroughrob
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    I was there in October 2010 and there were around 4000 aircraft there plus around 400 in surrounding scrapyards. They seem to process aircraft very quickly now. Once the US or allied forces stop using a type they scrap the majority very quickly. On our visit we were told the F-111’s were going to be scraped shortly after as the RAAF were retiring theirs.
    They seem to save a few of each type for museums, there were a few F-14’s and C141’s left on our visit. I would say it is the number 1 must visit for any military enthusiast, plus the museum is awesome. They do two daily 90min tours from the museum of the base. There are also several local flying schools who will do photo flights.
    http://www.farnboroughspotters.com/amarg.jpg

    http://www.farnboroughspotters.com/amarg1.jpg

    http://www.farnboroughspotters.com/scrap.jpg

    in reply to: Vintage bomber flypast #1075974
    farnboroughrob
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    The fly past would have 5 formations, im greedy:D
    Formation one: HP V/1500, Vickers Viginia,
    Formation two: Hawker hart, BP Sidestrand, HP Heyford, HP hampden
    Formation three: lancaster,halifax, Stirling ,Mosquito, B-17, B-24
    Formation four:B29, Vickers Windsor, Lincoln, plus a B-36 coz it’s my airshow
    Formation 5: Valiant, Vulcan, NA B-45, canberra

    Where do I buy tickets for this one!

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #478557
    farnboroughrob
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    I took this photo of the Queen’s Building viewing area in about 1989.

    The area shown was not accessable from the bridge postion the pic was taken. I was not on the bridge itself as access was blocked. I think there is a lack of aeroplanes in the photo because of the passenger terminal extension out from T1. At that time I found you could still have full range of the viewing area south of the ‘bridge’ between the QB Admin and the T2 buildings. Wish I’d taken a picture that way too but it was only luck my mom had a small camera with her to take this pic.

    Farnboroghrob… I believe the entrance way you can see in the lower area went into the cafe area you recall. It had windows all around onto the apron.

    I have just noticed there isn’t a staircase up to the uppermost viewing gallery. I guess they took it away at some stage in the 1980s.

    It is a shame that, with all the photographs that must have been taken of the aeroplanes at London Airport there seem almost no photos of this classic viewing area at all. But film was so expensive to use back then and I guess the jets were what people came to see. Hope this pic brings back memories.

    That photo brings back memories:). The balcony at the top left was closed before I started going think it was unsafe and eventually they removed the stairs. The spotters shop was just past those stairs comming down from the middle section. The cafe entrance is where the blue door is at the bottom. I think the cafe became a staff one after the QB viewing area closed.
    I see the only aircraft is a falcon 50? parked on the stands between T1 and T2 just where the Aeroflot IL62’s parked.
    I well remember ‘Trident hour’ at lunchtime when there seemed to be a never ending stream of BA Tridents returning after the early morning flights to Europe.
    At the time LHR in the mid-late 80’s was quite dull if, like me you had seen most of the normal airliners. There were many fewer new airliners back then and I can remember only making one or two new airliners in a day there. It all changed around 1990 with the 737-300’s and the start of newer Airbuses. I also remember being very excited one cold day seeing a Yougoslav An-12 and a Iraqi IL-76 on the same day. I had never seen either type before and for a year or so they became regulars.
    I also well remember a day around 1990 when the fog refused to move and I logged about 5 aircraft. 😡

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #479204
    farnboroughrob
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    My god that takes me back to my misspent yoof. First visit aged 6 in 1976 had pestered my parents(dad was a spotter anyway) to go an see Concorde. As with so many other visits we got the rail-air coach from Reading and I slept through Concorde’s departure!
    We visited a few times each summer until I was 14 and started visiting in school holidays regularly from 1984. I remember the QB well, I just remember the commentators but they were gone by the 80’s.
    The QB didn’t open until 10am so if it was nice until then I used T2 carpark if it was cold/raining used to stand in T1 where there was a good view of the north runway.
    The QB cost 20p if you were under 16 and 50p for adults I was under 16 for a long time as 30p went a long way then! First target on entry would be the Aeroflot Il-62 parked between T1 and T2. You could mostly ignore T1 as it was rull of rubbish like BA Tridents Aer Lingus 737-200’s and BMA Viscounts! If arrivals were on 10L/28R we normally viewed from the area above the tail of the Alitalia DC-8. There was a shop here(models, books atc) and a small indoor viewing room known as ‘the fishtank’.
    If you continue to walk towards T2 you came to the bridge between the two. Downstairs was the restaurant and bar. Until about 1982 it had a great view until they built the Eurolounge in front of it. Here you could get the culinary delights of the period, everything with chips!
    Once over the bridge there was a further raised viewing area on the extreme left of the photo that eventually had a indoor bit added.
    I visited on the last day the whole lot was open, summer of 86 IIRC. After that they built a new entrance by the bridge and the QB side was no longer acessable. IIRC they closed the lot during the 1st Gulf War and there was then limited opening until 9/11 after which is closed permanently. I used the carparks for spotting until 91 when I got my first car and have been using the permiter at least once a week since.

    in reply to: So why aren't *you* at Legends then? #1027106
    farnboroughrob
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    Because I was at Yeovilton:D seeing the Vulcan and Sea Vixen in formation was enough for me:D.
    BTW nice display from the An-2, first time I have seen the display despite seeing it at Popham every flyin. Which is where I will be tomorrow as I need a rest!
    http://www.farnboroughspotters.com/VSVIX.jpg
    Not the best weather but it’s there.

    in reply to: So why aren't *you* at Legends then? #1033398
    farnboroughrob
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    Because I was at Yeovilton:D seeing the Vulcan and Sea Vixen in formation was enough for me:D.
    BTW nice display from the An-2, first time I have seen the display despite seeing it at Popham every flyin. Which is where I will be tomorrow as I need a rest!
    http://www.farnboroughspotters.com/VSVIX.jpg
    Not the best weather but it’s there.

    in reply to: Which airfield is this? #480977
    farnboroughrob
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    My guess is Southend , too much tarmac for Elstree,but its difficult to be sure without making the photos bigger.

    in reply to: What happend to Proctor G-AIWA #1070373
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    I saw ‘IWA at LFA around a year after its accident and then it didn’t look in too bad condition, certianlly rebuildable. A following visit around 5 years later found it overgrown and stripped out, two years later nothing was found. At that time the rear of LFA was full of various wrecks completeley over grown, many T-6’s , Nord 1101’s and some Yaks. I guess that there was little apertitie at the time for a rebuild so the owner took the insurance money and left it there?

    in reply to: Cranwell Dominies airborne #1074319
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    The N reg can also be to do with parts traceability should they be broken up for spares. It would be difficult to pass these parts on in the civil market without a trail and the N-reg provides this. There are several scrap yards around Davis Monthan that have many ex military civil registered aircraft which have never flown under, and never carried, their civil marks.

    I would guess these aircraft must be pretty much time expired and their military mod states would would exclude a UK CofA?

    in reply to: Blackbushe Aero Club #412939
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    As somebody who has written a short book on Blackbushe’s history I can expand a little.
    Blackbushe was a govenment operated commercial airport until closed in may 1960. In the following year the part that was privately owned was sold to Don Bennett and reopened in its current form in October 1961. Blackbushe Aeroclub was formed at the same time. There were other clubs formed in the 60’s including Three Counties, ICL and Aeromart. Three Counties became the dominant club after Doug Arnold brought the airfield in 1972 and got the other clubs to move on. Three Counties became European Fliers around 1990and went bankrupt in 2001. Its interests were taken over by Redair in 2002.

    in reply to: Howard 500 still at Coventry? #1054270
    farnboroughrob
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    Thanks guys hopefully it will hold on until mid June!

    in reply to: Air Action Over Libya (Merged) #2315513
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    Want to listen in on the action in Libya? Currently have Snake 11 (Spangdahlem F-16’s) and a RAF E-3 inbound Akritori. In the last hour we have had Ascot 9641 two Tornado’s GR4’s outbound Libya. Earlier had Viper 11 followed by weasel 07 inbound Aviano. All this is in the public domain by listening to the Malta ATC feed http://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=MLA .
    Something like ‘Porter 11’ USAF has asked for a cruising level of 50,000-60,000 feet! Forte 10 has gone to Sigonoella. Fascinating stuff.

    in reply to: "post war " Horsas #1089817
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    Wrecks and Relics 2nd edition (1968) is your friend, it lists the following heavy gliders

    Abingdon Gaol 2 Horsas used as changing rooms
    Boscombe Down Horsa TK994 by side of road at Eastern end of base
    Brize Norton ” scattered around the village allotments are the remains of Horse fuselarges carrying on their time honored task in the disguise of Chicken runs, tool sheds etc.Known examples at Manor Farm are TL619 and TL726″
    Cherry Hinton, Cambridgeshire unknown Horsa at Sydney Farm
    Cottesmore- “Bits of a Hadrain glider may be extant on the airfield boundary”
    Cropredy,Oxon- two Horsas one is RZ240
    Cubridge, Oxon- in the grounds of a dissused military hospital is Horsa TL338
    Grotton,Lancs- Hardian 42-56353 behind a garage
    Lyneham- the surrounding villages contained Hamilcars RR993,RR969,RR982,RZ421,TK731, RR996 was reported as dissapeared.
    Mickleton,Glos- Hamilcar NX836 plus others
    Queensfetrry, N .Wales- Horsa TK979 at Willow Cottage, Mould Road
    Ruallt Hill, N.Wales-Horsa TL195 in a farm yard
    St.Aspath, N .Wales-Horsa TK946 at Mr Phillips Far, another may be at Bryn Clwyd farm
    Wotton Bassett,Wilts-two Horsas behind a transport Cafe reported in 1965
    Wroughton-Horsa at Basset Doen Farm in 1965

    So its lokks like the Wiltshire/Oxfordshire and North Wales area were the most populated with glider disposals. I also read somewhere the Elliotts of Newbury kept a couple of Horsas at their Newbury factory into the 50’s? When did the RAF stop using large gliders post war, by 1950 I would guess
    Being woodern they were never going to last too long.

    in reply to: Derelict airframes at Gatwick #1101777
    farnboroughrob
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    I too have that Aeroplane spotter mag, from December 1947 it mentioned an unknown Avro 504N and a DH60 G-EBMF.The 504 was a ex Air Publicity machine but the c/n plate had been removed and the wings burnt. EBMF was not impressed so I guess it was allready WFU in 1939. Not mentioned in the report but others may be G-ABTR Spartan 3 seater burnt Gatwick 1947, G-AEOK Portfield 35 burnt 1947, G-AFWX DH60 scraped Gatwick 1946
    I believe Southern Aircraft brought a number of impressed aircraft post ww2 so I guess those that had been wfu and not impressed were used for spares?

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