Primitive mythology by Joseph Campbell. Highly advised!
Another reason why European laws are incompatible with British sensibilities.
I don’t know WTF you are talking about, but he is definitely guilty of ruining formula 1 as a sport and turning it into an in-digest spectacle.
Nic
Or some or all were Rafale Ms, which only carry 1 on centreline for roll stability reasons.
If I remember correctly, the Rafale M carries one because of bring back weight reasons, nothing to do with roll stability.
I reckon the naval Typhoon has far superior roll capabilities though.
Nic
But the Typhoon is so much better in air combat…
I thought it was forbidden to be a male in europe nowadays
Get the P1 already! It looks BIG + it has a bomb bay & a superb blue colour.
Nic
6th gen =
– Smart skin (EW & Radar in 360° coverage)
– Directed energy weapons
– Variable cycle engine
– Optionally unmanned
Am I missing something?
Nic
Gripen MS21 was downgraded with a factor of .7 in the Swiss competition as the Swiss saw certain risks in the implementation of everything. Neither the Rafale nor the Eurofighter had any downgrading factors despite not having final versions there. Just more political support that their systems would be implemented. So Stop beating that french chest of yours. Worth noting is that with the Gripen, everything that was stated to be introduced in the MS21 has since then been implemented/confirmed for implementation [e.g. HMD, which Gripen C pilots are operating since some time now, but that the Swiss didn’t add to the Gripens portfolio due to the fact that it was under development and testing at the time of the Swiss Competition]. Gripen was not a political choice. It was the preferred choice by the Swiss Military given the economical frame and stated needs.
I did mention the uncertainty factor but I didn’t remember it was 0,7. here’s my quote for reference.
2 the second part of the report included the Gripen demo or MS21 & not the Gripen C, but its uncertainty factor lowered its grades at the time so that would have to be taken in consideration.
However by the time a real MS21 flies, Rafales & Typhoons will have developments that the Swiss couldn’t test even when they tested the AESA Rafale, nor were even planned or funded at the time. So that’s that.
In a well managed contest which as far as I am aware was the case for the Swiss the technical evaluation stage is an exercise in making sure bids meet the minimum requirements laid out. Once that hurdle has been cleared then you can then consider other critical factors like logistics and cost, the Gripen is designed to be maintained by conscripts that will save money. It is a single engine type, that will save money. It uses an engine that is similar to the one used in the Hornet, that will save money. It carries much of the same munitions as the Hornet, that will save money.
The contestants had to be at least better than the F18s, which was set as the benchmark with a grade of 6. The Gripen didn’t pass since it reached the grade of 6 in no category. So all your BS about making sure bids met the minimum requirement is wrong.
I’m not reading the rest of your post because I’m pretty sure it’s the same vein & I’m better off playing football manager.
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Coming from you, I take it as a good joke. Thanks for that.
You have quite a peculiar sense of humor if you find it funny to be caught knowingly misleading people with information that is blatantly false.
https://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?137496-Military-Aviation-News&p=2437458#post2437458
Rafale clearly won the technical evaluation, which again is not the same as winning the overall competition.
The Gripen didn’t win a competition, it was selected because it was the cheapest. Period. How one calls this a competition is beyond me.
@Eagle1:
Boeing was awarded a contract worth up to $1.17 billion to produce and deliver 22 F/A-18E and 6 F/A-18F Super Hornets for the government of Kuwait by 2022,
On cost, delay and capabilities, this would remain something hard to beat for Dassault.You can read an analysis of old the competition here (in Fr.) where we learn that Dassault made a last attempt to break the deal by cutting nearly in half its last offer.
This contract isn’t representative of the price of the SH, and if you weren’t so disingenuous, you would have quoted the 75 mil USD cost for the SH that is actually mentioned in the same article you quoted for USN planes (1,8 mil for 24 birds).
Shoddy post as often…
Did anyone notice the contract value given for the Kuwait Super Hornets? $1.17 billion for 28 aircraft. How can that (about $41,7 million per frame) be possible?
It is not. The USN gets 10 airframes for 739 Million, so that’s 73+ Million per airframe. From the same article 1,8 million for the USN for 24 airframes = 75 mil each.
So either its barebones without engines, radar & what not, or the journalist is wrong, or the US are paying a part of the contract.
(Additional reporting by Johan Sennero in Stockholm, Andrew Osborn in Moscow and David Ljunggren in Ottawa; writing by Robin Emmott; editing by Larry King and Dan Grebler)
They sure need a lot of propagandists to come up with such a sad piece of “news”
No the Gripen was selected by politicians, it didn’t win the technical evaluation. While it was actually supposed to be a Tiger replacement, it was thought at the time that the Hornets would in time be replaced by the same plane, & the standard to beat was that of the F18s of the Swiss Air Force, which contestants were supposed tu surpass. The MS21 Gripen tested in the second round didn’t get a 6 in any of the tested categories. MS21 is the software configuration of Gripen E when they will be delivered. Current C/D are MS20.
Maybe the real Gripen E with MS21 will do better than what was achieved in testing, or thought at the time because some characteristics were paper, but maybe the other contestants capabilities would have increased samefold.
But hey by all means keep spouting BS.