Yes, it seems so obvious now, doesn’t it? That’s called the benefit of a hindsight. I don’t know where all these sane people including you were before it all happened to warn all the insane ones.

what a load of bull

BS story.. Israel is coordinating their activities with Russians, such incident would have next to zero chance happening. Plus there only are four Su-30SMs in the theater.

That’s exactly what I told the person who sent me the link. Word for word.

Nic

Sometimes I wonder if the western establishments have gone fricking insane.
They attacked Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11 and reduced it to a murderous cesspool with hundreds of thousands dead and presumably many times that number crippled. And left that mess and ran off. Got what out of it? Zilch. Their own people hurt. Of course veterans, dump ’em and forget ’em. In the meantime, goodie old shoes AlQ gets a breather. And all sorts of new groups prop up.
Then Libya, again predictable, overthrow a dictator and all. Again reduce the country to a smoking pile of nothing, destroy the lives of the people and they now run to Europe. Oh noes, refugees crowding our pristine shores in Europe.
Afghanistan. Half a$$ed intervention with no focus as bulk of public attention is on Iraq. After a decade of blundering around and trying to buy off the very groups who sponsor terror (cough, cough), kill one old dude, declare mission done and skedaddle.
Now Syria. Create and engender a full blown civil war. In the process engendering a genocide of the native Yazidi people (collateral damage folks) and creating a new monster ISIL and what not. And then getting upset when Russia intervenes to stabilize the situation. Of course get upset when Russia does this, so payback in Ukraine.

There is a dark logic behind all this. All those interventions were planned in 2002 already (Syria, Libya, Sudan & so on).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-cGbEwfx20

At least according to Wesley Clark who isn’t your average forum member.

Nic

I wonder whether broccoli is CIA our MI6. Place your bets gentlemen.

Nic

From everything to your pleasing profile photo to the way you word yourself, you have the stink of FSB about you.

hahaha idiocy hall of fame.

Nic

2000 tons extra fuel may be a bit too draggy though.

Nic

So hypothetical load of 10 x JSOW… It would be hell on an airfield or other heavily defended target early in a conflict.

Would be cheaper to rebuild the airfield completely than to destroy it :dev2:

I don’t think he’ll disagree with the notion that the YF23 was better in some and the YF22 may have been better in other areas. But as noted in the video, the Prototype vehicles were only about a 1/3 of the program and while both teams demonstrated different performance aspects as per their own beliefs the actual requirements were met or exceeded by both the designs. I doubt he is going to say much beyond that, and being the only test pilot to have flown all three (YF23, YF-22 and F-22) I am sure he knows a lot more but we may never know..

In the 3rd video he says that he hasn’t flown the YF22 & he said that nobody ever flew both the YF22 & YF23.

Nic