In the low level strike role that we are discussing the respective airframes are already emitting radar energy from the TFR. In that context the Eurofighter MAWS is sufficient for the role and could be argued is more precise than IR MAWS that are likely more prone to false alerts.

Maybe you should read posts you respond to. The Rafale has a digitized terrain following map & can do without (or with minimal participation of, or any combination in between) the radar in TF mode.

Nic

Quatar is a terrorist state. No wonder they try do get as many planes as they can from different vendors; Not to build an airforce, but as kickbacks to politicians in the countries that sell the stuff.

Well I don’t disagree that Dave is the frontrunner in Finland, but I’m quite unsure what it really tells us about that country though.

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The biggest mistake of kurd militias is being commies.

Why would you drop 1 Kab500 when you can drop 6?

Dassault would be perfectly capable of developing a 5th gen fighter. The core software architecture is already there in the Rafale. The french gvt can’t afford to buy a 5th gen fighter because it’s run by a corrupt socialist mafia who vampirizes everything they can & more.

a) Vastly inferior costs by unit for the four partners by comparison with France

Just for giggles care to prove that?

b) More external sales than what Dassault obtained

4 times as much? I doubt it. And I won’t even delve into the kickback aspect of things.

c) Money spent on the program maintained in Europe (not gone to MCDouglas or General Dynamics)

Oh boy a national program would send so much money to MDDouglas or GE.

d) Maintaining in house design capability in Great Britain, Germany and Italy. Without the FEFA/EFA/Eurofighter program, you wouldnt seen Airbus throwing its weight around today and BAE would not be the prefered partner for the TAI program and would not be working with Mitsubishi on the I3.
By 1989, right after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the alternative was not to develop severall diferent aircrafts, one German, another one British and another one Italian, it was acquiring American.

A national program maintains even more in house design capabilitty. What’s your damn point? Seriously?

An historical note – If by 1986 the French MOD and Dassault were aware that the hoped 600+ external sales would turn out to be 84 airframes sold by 2017, its arguable that the Rafale program would never went forward, the Marine would have got the Hornet and the Adla would have kept improving its Mirage 2000´s.
This coupled with a receding defense budget might be the explanation for not having any French MOD or Dassault executive calling for a “Franco/French” FCAS for the last decade and a half and going full “European” with the NEURON.

This drivel proves that you haven’t even read my other posts on the subject. Being broke enough to not be able to defend yourself means you suck at governing, means you need to go and be replaced by someone who actually knows how to do stuff. It NEVER means that you have to build your stuff with major enemies (UK).

Nic

I bet Erdogan knows more about islam than anyone in Washington, except maybe *cough* Huma Abedin.

Get into your thick skull that islam isn’t just a religion. It’s a political/judiciary system as well. Muslims won’t be happy until their land is ruled by sharia law. Anything else they will never respect/abide.

Nic