Ps 90% of IAF is just old and obsolete and PAF believes in theory that IAF will crash by itself in war.
is this an official PAF “theory” ??
Ps 90% of IAF is just old and obsolete and PAF believes in theory that IAF will crash by itself in war.[
i really hope that the PAF people believe that 😀
There are two sides. India and Pakistan.
India had/has/will have the quatitive advantage. We can not argue about that. 5 times bigger and probably 5 times stronger. India now has quality advantage. Look at the MKI, Brahmos, Mig29, Mirage 2000, Bison etc etc. And India is getting more and more (wishlist 125 mirage2000-5/Gripen/F16)/mig29sk/MKI) without the fact that Pakistan waking up everyone. It doesn’t care about it. It cannot so it has minimal deterrence.
Now the other side. Pakistan is smaller. It has been boycotted much monger while the other side started nuke testing. It has been a front against terrorism (whatever that may be). Now every small idea is being bashed by the neighbour that it might change the ballance. Which ballance? Quantity? I don’t think so. Quality? Well, the most modern they have are three decades old block 15 F16’s and no decent BVR or radar. At the same moment you can see MKI and mirage 2000 and many other exotic goodies going to find their way into IAF. And even if PAF gets newer versions of F16. Will that make IAF less effective? It may be countered more when attacking Pakistan. But if they both have nuclear weapons attached on ballistic missiles an a long border then what do these F16 add to that? A very little diversity? A kamikaze mission? So the propaganda and sentiment that PAF should get no advanced weapons is BS. The discussions about AMRAAM or JDAM are the same BS. If they not can be used against terrorism. Well. Why does India buy so many arms if they have only internal terrorism (haven’t seen external terrorism there)? Why is India buying latest UAV’s, missiles and planes? Just to find bad armed terrorists? I have the feeling if we ask why both nations are buying these things then it would be fair but one side is protected and the other side attacked several times. That doesn’t make the discussion valuable. So let us return to non political and purely technical side. And those posters that keep talking about high tech against low tech should try to understand warfare these days. The US uses high tech. Why? To minimize their losses. And they have their F16’s armed with AMRAAM while the Iraci’s have no planes there. Why to protect if something might happpen. And please look at the other side when you are judging. Appreciated.
first of all, please explain what is “quatitive advantage” 😀
and regarding your comments about Indian arms acquisition……. India has never said that it is going to use Su-30s or mirage’s against terrorists……
they are for equipping the airforce for fighting wars……
India doesn’t use the excuse that since it wants to attack terrorists, it need ‘AMRAAMs or JDAMs’
Why were Mirage and PGM usded against small simple armed groups in Kashmir?
say what ??? you are calling the pakistani army regulars and terrorists that pakistan sent to kargil as simple armed groups…..
and besides kargil, can you give details about any incident where India has used PGMs to take out “simple armed groups” in kashmir ? 😎
Ok guys
Some info, should start coming in the news in first quater of 2005
1. PAF will be going for 4 hawkeyes along with 6 Erieyes.
2. PAF is buying 60 some kits for F-16 MLU, 60 some MLY meaning they are buying around 28 used F-16s (for now)
3. After this MLU request, more requets will be made for AMRAAM, and JDAM
4. By the end of the year, new F-16s should be ordered.
5. No aircraft aquistion from France, rather deals for avionics for JF-17 and system for the Al-Khalid tank, probably for the Saudi purchase.6. 4 ships are also on the table, not sure what class, but they will be from storage and will be upgraded.
whats that ?? :confused:
an official declaration by the pakistani govt. ? or your wishlist ??
if its the latter, i have a few suggestions to make 😀
I thought I answered this on your proton river forum 😀
as if you are the only person in this world who knows about it….. :rolleyes:
The same is true of Indegnous Kaveri when finally it collapsed in a foreign country. It needs medical treatment in France or US not Russia. 😀
may Allah help the FC-1 then….. uses a russian engine … doesn’t it ?? :rolleyes:
Wheres a dictatorial moderator when you need one? Arthur?? 😉
according to Tiger, Arthur is also “in bed with his indian friends” 😀
How was that one sided? PAF FC-1s do currently exist only on paper, as does the PAK-FA. I told you why there hasn’t been much on the PAK-FA, it is just getting out of the design stage.
don’t argue SOC…. he already referred to you as “in bed with your indian friends”….. you don’t want to incur his wrath….:D let him believe what he wants to believe….
okay… so there are three squadrons of FC-1s flying in PAF colours…..
happy ? PLA ?? 🙂
some more GOOD flanker pics :dev2:
my current desktop…
heres mine….
amateur pic… 😮
I am a terrorist? Oh, thanks for letting me know….
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you must be having a brother called MiG Man….. 😀 :p 🙂
A Kite with a camera :confused:
😀 😀 :p :p :diablo: :diablo: 😀 😀