J-11D makes a lot of sense for Pakistan to pursue.
will be cheaper than the SU35
if Russia has no objection over the sale of RD93, precedence has been established to sell the AL31F direct or via China.
no Indian hue and cry.
geo-political changes, SCO, resumption of military sales by Russia to Pakistan etc. etc.
China could allow TOT to assemble the J-11D in Pakistan.

The Chinese refused to sell even the J10A to Pakistan. iirc there were quite a few statements by highers up in PAf about 36 J10, then it was the B version and eventually it fizzled.
What makes you think China will offer J-11D !? Also TOT ?! 😀

50 years of 1965 … lots of stories … some more unreal than others …

This is on the myth of MM Alam … but wait, it was written by an Indian journalist – it must be wrong, right ?:highly_amused:

http://iadnews.in/2015/09/breaking-the-myth-of-mm-alam/#.VecN8IG3TqB

Grand slam was slammed shut. Yet its a win for teh delusional. Weird are the ways and the math.

When did the JF-17 achieve IOC and FOC ?

He is obsessed with posting articles non stop to try to make the IAF look bad.

It is pretty comical and everyone sees it for what it is.
You can tell he gets particularly giddy whenever anything Indian crashes.

yeah, but in his mind he is pursuing an “agenda” .. :rolleyes:

My friend, everyone in life has an agenda. You do. Other posters do and I do. What exactly is the point you are making. I don’t even think you know. If I post something not to your liking but is not offensive and is relevant to the thread, then with all do respect, I really could not care less what you think….

You do realize this is a message board to discuss Modern military aviation. Whats with the “agenda” non sense ?

This post of yours only adds credence to my previous post. You do need to get out and have a life.
Its okay to have fun .. 😉 :very_drunk:

That is a captive training missile! Powder blue color! Fighters usually only carry a single missile of this type. Facepalm!

This is interesting. Just the 1 jet of 4 which were inducted @ CCS had the single captive training missile – powder blue colour.

Im a little intrigued though. For an induction ceremony, PAF kits out just 1 jet with 1 wing tip training round, whereas during an display like the one below, they kit out actual missiles ?

Also, since you so authoritatively state that “Fighters usually only carry a single missile of this type” , would you be kind enough to post more pictures of JF-17 with such a similar arrangement ? i.e. single powder blue colour captive round pictures ?

Thanks.

Right now no developing country can make a fighter as good as the JF-17. And it may be the first jet fighter to achieve export success without it’s country of origin operating it. For China to pass on it means China is now a lot wealthier than they thought they would be 10-15 years ago.

But Pakistan makes it and they claim credit for almost the whole program. JF-17 is unimaginable without Pakistani input. Not sure if the Chinese would have succeeded in their low cost export fighter project without PAFs input.

I don’t care about this LCA versus JF-17, but I believe your statement here is not correct because I have an old GE poster showing all the military aircraft (drawings) using their engines (late 1980-ish, I would date it around 1989) and in it was the LCA. In fact, that’s the first time I’ve learned about the existence of the LCA and the drawing in the poster looks very very close to what the LCA looks like today….really not much changed, thus the development have already went through some phases.

Hi, here is the official time line of the LCA …

http://www.tejas.gov.in/history/timeline.html

The first Technology Demonstrator Aircraft was rolled out on 17th Nov 1995.

LCAs design itself was finalised in 1990. Wonder how it managed to reach GEs poster in the late eighties !
Could have been a concept drawing..

lol, oh wait, so someone’s badmouthed the Limited Capability Aircraft Tejas, that means he’s got to be one of your arch foes from Pakistan?! So anyone who mentions the JF-17 and Tejas in the same sentence must be one of those ISI bogey men?! According to your logic, that must make Alan Warnes a Pakistani too!!!
Anyway, carry on with the racial slander, when you can’t argue on facts and figures, turn to racial insults instead, just goes to show you way of thinking, similar to your compatriot “BlackArcher”.

If a reference to Abbottabad is a “racial insult/slander”, then I apologize.

I seriously fail to get it though, how it might have offended you.

Anyway, could you please list them “defense aerospace circles” which refer to the Tejas as a Limited Capability Aircraft ?

I genuinely want to know …
Thanks.